City 0 Team Bath 3

[RegCubit]

Not much I can say about this one, TB were the far better side, looked fit and well coached as you would expect.

The most obvious difference was vocally, TB just never shut up, they were constantly talking and shouting at each other, whereas we weren't talking at all.

Not a good game to watch from a City point of view.

[rio]

I dunno, apart from not creating many real clear-cut scoring chances ourselves, I didn't see too much between the 2 teams and needed someone who can read the game better than myself to explain how Bath actually won.

They had one or two good players at the front [who took practically the only chances they had] and the same at the back [who stopped practically everything getting behind them and so reducing us to long-range shots]. We started slowly and hardly got out of our half for the first 10 minutes but then thought we showed the better play, in which Kerys was once again consistently good, Donna Turner did some wonderful close control in the middle and trying to open-up their defence. Kelly's link-up play, bringing-in others, was excellent but couldn't really carve-open a good enough chance for herself, but my player of the game was Laura Meheren who played the ball simply, put-in some good crosses and was just SO focussed and determined and had the beating of her markers if we could have got the ball to her more often

Sorry girls, but perhaps through my yellowish-tinted glasses, I thought you deserved something out of that game

[kempy]

i would have to say i agree with u rio, i dint think there was alot between the sides at all, personally i think we need to bring more width into the team and get more crosses into the box we have sum fast players y not run at them from the wings giving more support to the wing backs who i dont think had alot of options last night, we didnt really test the keeper which is disapointing but we do play sum gud passing football at times but unfortunatly bath took their chances where as we didnt create enough.
i thought all the girls played well tho, especially chloe at the back who for sumone who hasnt played many games for the 1st did excellent and it adapting well to the pace of the game as she said herself its alot more faster than the 2nds league.
thanx to everyone who came down last night i think most people who saw the game wud agree there wasnt alot between the 2 sides (well apart from 3 goals :p ).

[Neil]

Not much I can say about this one, TB were the far better side, looked fit and well coached as you would expect.

The most obvious difference was vocally, TB just never shut up, they were constantly talking and shouting at each other, whereas we weren't talking at all.

Not a good game to watch from a City point of view.I was disappointed to miss this one because I've never seen the Ladies play floodlit football. They're having a tough time of it at the moment and many of them aren't used to losing so even though it might not have been the best of games from a City POV I still think you should use a little positive spin and encourage them regardless of the opposition :)

[RegCubit]

Not being [B]most[B] people who watched the game, I have to disagree with you Kempy. At times we played some good passing football, but we were too narrow, long balls were chucked forward for Kelly to run onto, but she was always outnumbered, in the second half pushing Meheran up front, using Charlotte and Libby as wing backs did make a difference, but the biggest problem was the lack of talking, if you had of been on the sidelines you would have noticed how obvious it was. The group of people I was stood with all noticed it. The only noise from us was you telling the ref off, bless him, in fact he made more noise than all our team put together.

[RegCubit]

many of them aren't used to losing so even though it might not have been the best of games from a City POV :)

Thats not actually true Neil. If you remember last season, we won our first seven League matches on the trot, and then died from then on, the only new players from last season are Charlotte and Chloe. We seem to be doing the same this season with our results, and we still have some hard games to come, we have Cullompton next Sunday away, a team who appear to be a bogey side over the last three seasons or so. then we have Bath City at home at MP next wednesday evening who beat us last week 2- 1 and are in the second relegation place.

Your comment about encouragement is quite correct especially when dealing with youngsters, which is why my comments were quite short. There were some positives, as pointed out by Kempy and rio, Chloe looks stronger and confidant at the back, Libby had a good game, Kelly looked dangerous when she got the opportunity, Donna played some superb passes, Meheran continues to show why I gave her the Chairmans Season Award last year. Kempy played well, although personally I prefer to see her on the right, there was no one I would say had a bad game.

But in my opinion TB looked the better team, the movement was better etc, but as I said you would expect it from them, bearing in mind they are a student team who have loads of coaching through the week, not the one night a week our players get.

[kempy]

surely you agree with my comment then as i said we dont ave enough width and u said we are too narrow do they not mean the same thing?? i think however your comment was a little too negative,
i spoke to some spectators after the game and they said to me it was a good game to watch im not denying we didnt create enough chances cos we didnt, also as for talking on the pitch you cant always hear everything when you are stood watching on the oposite side of the pitch!! and as for bath for talking they were swearing alot which is why the ref got his cards out!
people seem to forget we have lost some great players e.g mouse & mcatty and injuries we have and we are still adjusting to that, we are trying new formations and i couldnt fault anyones individual performance last night but as a team we arnt playing our best football and some players arnt very confident at the mo which is why i think more support is needed rather than negativity!

[RegCubit]

Funny isn't it, at the start of last season I was thanked by a players family for the award I had given her, and that it had boosted her confidence. During the two years as Chair,when ever I was at a game I chose a player of the match, and gave them a memento to keep. I always try to encourage players Kempy, you will never hear criticism from me at a match on the pitch. But because we are human we have differences of opinion, so on this game we will agree to disagree.

[DCD]

Havent seen the Ladies play for a while but I allways thought that when they played passing football they were unbeatable but the long ball game to someone who loses steam half way through a game just wont work ( and that is not a dig at anyone player) it didnt work when mouse played up front and it wont work now revert back to a good passing game useing the wingbacks and as kempy said get the crosses over and hopefully you will be back to your winning ways .

Why is someone like Jo Thompson who plays well in defence and is currently top scorer playing in the reserves when you could use her in the 1st she as speed and played great football in defence for a couple of seasons then suddenly dropped to the 2nds cant see the logic in that somehow . allthough Im not stupid and if im right peoples way of life should not have a affect on what team she plays in she should be playing in the 1st team on past performance and experience just couse some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. and if it had you would lose half your 1st team.:eek: (NOW THATS A DIG)

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Ladies, keep your chins up, you're a cracking bunch of fillies who do the game of women's football proud. Every team has a dip, without it the good times wouldn't be so good. Things have to be broken and re-mended sometimes to make them even better.

One suggestion. With Mouse gone you might want to consider giving one of your other players an animal nickname eg armadillo this might give you a cycle logical advantage

[Neil]

Havent seen the Ladies play for a while but I allways thought that when they played passing football they were unbeatable but the long ball game to someone who loses steam half way through a game just wont work ( and that is not a dig at anyone player) it didnt work when mouse played up front and it wont work now revert back to a good passing game useing the wingbacks and as kempy said get the crosses over and hopefully you will be back to your winning ways .

Why is someone like Jo Thompson who plays well in defence and is currently top scorer playing in the reserves when you could use her in the 1st she as speed and played great football in defence for a couple of seasons then suddenly dropped to the 2nds cant see the logic in that somehow .I agree with you on the football thing Terry and although it's not my place to comment I do wonder what the benefit in having a reserve team is if the firsts only have twelve or even the bare eleven and the reserves are away playing with anything a low as eight or nine players in the starting line up. I always thought it would make more sense to have a full bench and options to change the game plus it would give more girls a taste of SWWFL football.allthough Im not stupid and if im right peoples way of life should not have a affect on what team she plays in she should be playing in the 1st team on past performance and experience just couse some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. and if it had you would lose half your 1st team.:eek: (NOW THATS A DIG)It would be a shame if that were the case. However, can I ask that this forum isn't used to aire difficult arguments like this please and that if anything needs to be said then it happens privately.

Thanks

Neil

[DCD]

Quite right there neil Ive have not posted the above to cause a seen or anything I just cant work it out myself . maybe ive missed something Ill have to watch them next week and work it out for myself. hope theres no hard feelings just thought id get my point accross thats all.

[Neil]

No problem mate, cheers.

[Ian Powell]

Quote:although Im not stupid and if im right peoples way of life should not have a affect on what team she plays in she should be playing in the 1st team on past performance and experience just couse some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. and if it had you would lose half your 1st team. (NOW THATS A DIG)


Terry, I take exception to what you are implying, but first I want you to clarify some points for me just to make sure you are saying what I think you are saying. Veiled accusations are not my style.

1. Exactly what do you mean when you say 'peoples way of life should not have an effect on what team she plays in'?
2. What 'way of life' are you talking about?
3. Exactly who 'at the top' are you accusing of having a phobia and again please clarify exactly what this phobia is please?


In response to your other comment:
Quote: Why is someone like Jo Thompson who plays well in defence and is currently top scorer playing in the reserves when you could use her in the 1st she as speed and played great football in defence for a couple of seasons then suddenly dropped to the 2nds cant see the logic in that somehow

I am not prepared to discuss a player with anyone other than the player or the coaching staff except to say that any player who turns up to training on average once every 2 months is lucky to even get into the second XI.

When the youngsters are able to come through again in 2008-09, both teams will be picked on training attendance, ability and attitude........this is as it should be and how it was last year when we had a squad of 30+.

Unless you or anyone else is prepared to volunteer their time every Thursday night and every Sunday, plus taking on all the behind the scenes work that is involved, I suggest you keep your opinions to yourself and let those who do all the work, get on with it in peace without being criticised.:mad:

[kempy]

As a player i know for a fact that players are picked on their abitliy & attitude towards others & training and not anything to do with thier sexual orientation its not an issue with any of the players or management, wat we do in our own time doesnt affect who gets picked for the 1st team, all the managemnt care about is the best players to play & in what position.

and lez be honest (see wat i did there) any manager who wishes to take on a ladies football team would be foolish not to expect different sexualalities within a team, as far as ian & andy are concerned if the best 11 players were gay & were regulars at trianing they would be 1st on the team sheet.:p

[rio]

Sorry everyone. "Tch, me and my big keyboard"

Following that weak analogy thing, can I go on to say the two most obvious things now by saying [and hoping to draw any attention onto myself] 'it shows we care' and now lets ALL support the ladies at their game tomorrow night and hope that these pages will again be full of glittering praise for another stunning team display.

I'll be there, retrieving balls from any parts of the ground and hoping that the ladies win. "GO ON YOU TIGRESSES"

[RegCubit]

I'm not sure how we got to this position in this thread, but what the hell does it matter what your sexual choices or colour or religion or anything else matter. At the end of the day, surely it is about putting the best available 11 players into a yellow shirt to perform.

As for Jo, I have seen her play a couple of times this season, and yes she is playing well. But I have to agree with Ian, why should ANY player who doesn't turn up for training expect to be picked over players who turn up regularly, and show a commitment, unless there are justifiable reasons for not doing so.

Tomorrow night, I will only put the score on here, I will keep my opinion to my self no matter how we play, becasue I think this thread has got out of hand.:mad:

[DCD]

Ian

Maybe it come out the wrong way Let me try and explain. I did not mean to cause a seen .

Ok jo was dropped at the beginning of last season to the 2nds when at the time she turned up for training on a regular basis I know she sufferd a injury in a pre season game on black bridge but after that didnt play in the 1sts all
season even after the injury had cleared and as been playing the 2nds all this season aswell but now i know why ok. I just wonderd why.

Off course this was just after myself and jo had split up and she came out as being gay. I thought that was the reason her being gay . that led me to write
the following

allthough Im not stupid and some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. if im right peoples way of life should not have a affect on what team she plays in may'be Iam stupid to think that someone was anti gay and that was reason she was not playing in the 1st team and it is stated IF IM RIGHT......

Then came she should be playing in the 1st team on past performance and experience
Well as a spectater or supporter call it what you like I thought she should and you can look on football forums accross the country and all supporters have there views.and some are quite nasty however like me they dont know what go's on within the week before a game Allthough I did not know that she does not now attend training as often as she should ( but there again thats nothing to do with me ) so I aggre with you on this point any player who turns up to training on average once every 2 months is lucky to even get into the second XI.
Thats her own doing.

Then came some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. and if it had you would lose half your
1st team

Then I was making a point that joined on from the earlier part of my post when I said if im right peoples way of life should not have a affect on what team she plays in

So let me break it down (a) some people at the top have a phobia and to be honest that shouldont have anything to do with it. By the top I ment the management you Ian But I was wrong sorry for thinking that you were anti gay.(b) and if it had you would lose half your 1st team I think the words are AND IF IT HAD meaning if you were then you would lose half your 1st team. Meaning that jo is not the only gay in the village sorry Team Squad

Unless you or anyone else is prepared to volunteer their time every Thursday night and every Sunday, plus taking on all the behind the scenes work that is involved

No thanks Been there done that for two seasons as secretary and i know how hard it is and I know how hard you work along with the rest of your team of coaches and managers .

So ive hoped Ive explained it ok . But if you want to speak to me direct then I will see you tomorrow night .

Kempy

As a player i know for a fact that players are picked on their abitliy & attitude towards others & training

Ive allready stated that i did not no jo was not attending training every week

and lez be honest (see wat i did there) What ?

Any manager who wishes to take on a ladies football team would be foolish not to expect different sexualalities within a team

Well Well

Reg Cubit (phil)

why should ANY player who doesn't turn up for training expect to be picked over players who turn up regularly, and show a commitment,

Where did I say that I didnt say that she expected to be picked and be playing in the 1st team I asked why Jo is not playing in the 1 st Team . a question I asked before I knew that she was not attending training everyweek so get your facts right .

[RegCubit]

why should ANY player who doesn't turn up for training expect to be picked over players who turn up regularly, and show a commitment,

Where did I say that I didnt say that she expected to be picked and be playing in the 1st team I asked why Jo is not playing in the 1 st Team . a question I asked before I knew that she was not attending training everyweek so get your facts right .

Never said you did, I was merely supporting what Ian said, but you missed off abit of the quote, " unless there are justifiable reasons for doing so", so I did have my facts right.

Why are you trying to stir things up Terry?. From what I have seen of Jo this season, she seems to be enjoying her football, seen her score some good goals too.

[DCD]

Why are you trying to stir things up Terry?. From what I have seen of Jo this season, she seems to be enjoying her football, seen her score some good goals too

Phil
Im not trying to stir things up I just wonderd why jo was not playing in the 1st team thats all . although Im not involved anymore I have not seen the ladies play for a while I still logon and find out how they get on read the swwfl site to see how other teams are doing and even read the match reports for newquay to see how Mouse is doing .

Maybe what i posted was wrong of me but thats me and will do what Ian said keep my opinions to myself in the futre but I thought this board was for expressing opinions good or bad maybe im wrong again lets not prolong this anymore whats done is done . might see you tonight at the game.