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daveangel
26th May 2010, 16:28
I blame Max Clifford.
tigermatty
26th May 2010, 17:44
wouldn't blame lee for wanting to go to a club at a higher level for more money, as I said in the other thread, everyone is replacable
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TigerMark
26th May 2010, 20:21
Think we would really miss him if he went - didn't he score more goals himself than all of our strikers?
C'mon Boris, get him on a 2 year contract!
daveangel
26th May 2010, 20:41
Love him to stay. Very good player, and a Gloucester boy . But if he had a better offer, i think we would all wish him well after all he has done for the club. But as Matt says, nobody is irreplacable, and i would loke to see Adie step up to the plate.
pylonsider
26th May 2010, 22:07
Really nice lad but needs somebody (Boris?) from time to time to put his arm around his shoulder and tell him how good he really is. Like him but, as a fubbler, he is basically a 'one trick pony' and really clever teams can work him out. He needs a coach who can lead him to the next level. BUT, over the years I've noticed he has improved his heading, in his tracking back and in his final ball .... so, maybe, another team might come in for him but I suspect he also knows he is worth his salt at The Tigers.
Bath? His pace and enthusiasm would lift them and they have a couple of clever midfielders who would give him some sumptious passes. Newport? Nah, don't be silly. FGR? Maybe. Nice pitch, a manager who could get the best out of him, but what about the rest of the team?
Could always come back to The Corinium - Hughesey might break the bank and stick him on £90 as our top earner .... yeah, right!
TigerMark
26th May 2010, 23:09
Really nice lad but needs somebody (Boris?) from time to time to put his arm around his shoulder and tell him how good he really is. Like him but, as a fubbler, he is basically a 'one trick pony' and really clever teams can work him out. He needs a coach who can lead him to the next level. BUT, over the years I've noticed he has improved his heading, in his tracking back and in his final ball .... so, maybe, another team might come in for him but I suspect he also knows he is worth his salt at The Tigers.
A one trick pony yes, but aren't all wingers?
I think we are doing Lee a bit of a bad service - 20 odd goals is an outstanding return for any player from right mid and sometimes even right back. Of course, any City fan would wish him well if he decided to leave but while we can, we should be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at the club. Yes he isn't perfect but he is as about as good as perfect as we are going to get!
tigermatty
27th May 2010, 07:17
A one trick pony yes, but aren't all wingers?
I think we are doing Lee a bit of a bad service - 20 odd goals is an outstanding return for any player from right mid and sometimes even right back. Of course, any City fan would wish him well if he decided to leave but while we can, we should be fighting tooth and nail to keep him at the club. Yes he isn't perfect but he is as about as good as perfect as we are going to get!
Doesn't the same thing happen every year though? I think we all know the score by now, yes Lee is a great asset to the side but only he can decide if he would rather be somewhere else. It just feels like deja vu that it's summer time again and here we are reading stories about Smudge being linked with so and so club and we all have to come on here and tell him how great he is and how much we love him to make him stay. Try reading between the lines, I think it's fairly obvious what's happening here.
He is not "great", and, had his fair share of average games last season. The fact remains however, that he scored 20+ goals, which, in my opinion will make it extremely difficult for Boris to replace with like.
clifty
27th May 2010, 08:42
Fact is smudge scored more goals than all our strikers added together! We have to try keep hold of him!!!
The Cleric
27th May 2010, 09:37
No matter what happens or whatever opinion we have of Lee Smith with 356 appearances and 71 goals for Gloucester City he is irrefutably an all-time Gloucester City legend and if we had a Hall of Fame he would be there.
Philip Grace
27th May 2010, 10:36
I guess as far as guaging Lee Smith as a goal scorer the penalties (not sure how many) should be deducted. For instance last year Syko got twenty five plus goals but i think around fifteen were from the spot so as a midfielder he scored around ten.
tigermatty
27th May 2010, 10:45
I guess as far as guaging Lee Smith as a goal scorer the penalties (not sure how many) should be deducted. For instance last year Syko got twenty five plus goals but i think around fifteen were from the spot so as a midfielder he scored around ten.
8 were penalties.
ItmustbeCity
27th May 2010, 10:46
I guess as far as guaging Lee Smith as a goal scorer the penalties (not sure how many) should be deducted. For instance last year Syko got twenty five plus goals but i think around fifteen were from the spot so as a midfielder he scored around ten.
A free shot on goal it may be but penalty still has to be scored, if it was that simple England would probably have won another World Cup by now
Hope Smudge doesn't go as he would be a big loss and not easily replaced
I really hope Lee stays, as we'll really miss his goals and pace if he leaves.
Also though, I think it could be a big mistake for him if he goes. He's a great bloke, and I wouldn't want to see him making a similar mistake to one he did 5 or so years ago when he went to Ciren. We've treated him well here, and the fans love him, and that may not be the case at other clubs.
Darran
27th May 2010, 11:55
I agree with what Joe says. He is our best player and the only one who I think might do something with the ball whenever hes on it. Yes he has his poor games but then so do all players and at our level you have to expect that a player isnt always going to be at their best. I can see why he would want more money with a baby on its way but if he did go I can easily see him coming back. Also if he wants to be in a promotion winning team again then who is he going to join that are local because I cant think of any teams who will be fighting for promotion nearby.
Shandy
27th May 2010, 12:02
Having a baby and moving jobs are two of the top 5 stressors in life, and if he does move elsewhere I really fear for his mental health
tigermatty
27th May 2010, 12:57
I don't think there is a single city fan who thinks we would be better off without Lee Smith, but to have to go through this farce every summer is becoming a bit tiresome.
clifty
27th May 2010, 13:39
The thing that worries me the most is the fact that other teams are offering OUR star players contracts before we are! Surely we should have been doing this once we knew we were safe???
Cylops
27th May 2010, 14:50
Lee Smith is a very good player. He is by far the best winger we have had for a very long time. I am fed up with hearing self-righteous cant from petty detractors on this particular thread. (goals scored from penalties, one trick pony, an annual problem, has bad games etc;) He will read all this rubbish.
We should all encourage him to stay, and hope funds can be found to get him to stay. I am looking forward to see him play down the wing on the Whaddon surface.
BobCarolgees
27th May 2010, 17:33
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Agree with Cyclops there. I've already told him I wouldn't begrudge him the chance to play in the Conference, he's 26 now and in his prime but I wouldn't be happy if he was to go to another team at our level for the typical "extra £20 per week".
daveangel
27th May 2010, 18:51
Lee Smith is a very good player. He is by far the best winger we have had for a very long time. I am fed up with hearing self-righteous cant from petty detractors on this particular thread. (goals scored from penalties, one trick pony, an annual problem, has bad games etc;) He will read all this rubbish.
We should all encourage him to stay, and hope funds can be found to get him to stay. I am looking forward to see him play down the wing on the Whaddon surface.
Agree 100% If i was him, and i read some of the negativity on here, i'd think "sod it", and try elsewhere. City boy, top player, top bloke, keep him if we can.
tigermatty
27th May 2010, 19:09
who is being negative, can't think of anyone who doesn't think he is an asset. If smudge has to base his decision to stay or go every year on how many people come on here and stroke his ego every time there's a bit of speculation (and ask yourself how that speculation comes about) then I think that's pretty sad...he knows better than anyone how much is loved by the city fans and I think its a little disrespectful to the rest of the team to assume that we wouldn't be able to be competetive without him, I also don't think that Boris should just throw more money at players who have received better offers...we'd go bust if he did that. I for one hope he stays but not to the detriment of the playing budget
daveangel
27th May 2010, 19:27
I wouldn't really think being described as a "not great", "one trick pony" who relies on penalties as THAT positive, but i agree with the last sentence.
NI-Branch
27th May 2010, 23:05
I hope he stays, so we can see how he goes on a far superior pitch at Whaddon Road.
I think with the new baby, it's really in his best interest not to be travelling too far this season.
But hey, were not exactly loaded club and can't be held to ransom (i'm sure its not what he's doing, but there has to be a limit that our club unfortunately can pay him), maybe they could offer him a bonus on goals scored.
I'm still concerned about our Fire Power up front. Jack Pitcher is an enigma, he has the ability, the speed and yet he doesn't score anywhere enough goals. Maybe he has to be a bit more selfish and get in the box more. I really like him and would love to see him scoring 25+ goals, which he should be doing.
We also have Symo & Morford who didn't score many either, not that I'm knocking either of them, they are good at what they do - but we do need to score goals.
On our budget who could we realistically go for - but must be a proven goalscorer ?
Droitwich Tigers
28th May 2010, 07:03
I hope Lee signs for next season, yes some of his goals were penalties but at least he's got the bottle to take them.
We have a tight budget so lets put our trust in Boris to do the right thing.
pylonsider
28th May 2010, 11:20
I think my one trick pony comment has been taken as criticism without noting the BUT that I then stuck in to my comments! Ho hum. The test is going to be, now that he is coming up against much cuter defenders, can he find / make the space to use his assets, can he out think a defender who will be trying to deny him that space? It is about timing, it is about touch, it is about thinking that split second ahead of the opponent. He is a very effective player but he is also a player who needs to be reassured that he is as good as he is. To my mind, that means the player has to listen and learn.
I think he has - he is far more effective nowadays than he was five / six years ago - and I've seen him at games watching players and if he is thinking about how the game is going he will be learning from that. I think the management and coaches would now be looking to balance how far he has improved with how much more he can develop further. And then decide if what Lee thinks / hopes he is worth can be matched against what can be paid.
Of course he will have balanced leaving The Tigers against the additional time/distance that he'd have to spend if he went elsewhere. The other thing, and I wonder why it hasn't been mentioned, is that youse lot don't have any stars as such but have a team. It is your biggest asset - the team. Smudge is part of that and he knows it. My guess - an arm will be put around him, he'll listen, he'll be at Whaddon Road next year
FGR? - http://fgrforum.publicitymatters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3120&sid=fdf56d00b3d956d6a76d21b0e2f6cc95
Pablo
28th May 2010, 16:04
FGR? - http://fgrforum.publicitymatters.com/viewtopic.php?f=2&t=3120&sid=fdf56d00b3d956d6a76d21b0e2f6cc95
Forest Green Rovers have signed Hednesford Town striker Ross Dyer and agreed new contracts with Mike Fowler and Reece Styche.
I think those are the three. http://news.bbc.co.uk/sport1/hi/football/teams/f/forest_green_rovers/8710517.stm
I didn't get that far along the thread....
I'll be disappointed if he signs for them to play in the BSS.
tigermatty
28th May 2010, 16:47
of course the news of those three signings was reported on sportglos yesterday evenin...
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Dr Tiger Andy
30th May 2010, 09:47
I just hope we don't lose all our best players and end up saddled with the dross from Cheltenham's reserve and youth teams. True - everyone IS replaceable, but I don't think a clearout should be advocated.
Nice of Kev to realise that he wants to play for us again. Will he leave again?
I'd love to see a 20 goal a season striker in because if Smudge does leave then we will struggle tremendously given our strike force.
I addressed this suggestiion of recruitment of "the dross from Cheltenham's reserve and youth teams" publically at the Players' Presentation Evening - and got a bit heated about it. It could be mischievous to keep raising it. It is not something that is said about the signing of players on loan from other clubs, say Bristol Rovers. It would be equally unhelpful if it were to be. The manager will make his signings and arrange his loan deals from wherever he chooses. There is nothing, repeat nothing, that indicates that they should come from Cheltenham Town. Neither is there anything wrong with a player coming from there, should occasion arise.
Appreciate that Noah but there is not one player, and that includes Michael Whittington who has consistently shone on loan from them. Compare that to Ben Hunt and Mike Green who we've had recently or back in the day with the likes of Marcus Browning, Matt Bryant or Michael Oakes and you can probably guess why City fans aren't enamoured to see Tom Webb "rested" to give Lewis Fathers a game in the heart of City's midfield. Even Kyle Haynes, someone who has appeared in more than a handful of Football League games didn't look as though he could get the better of his opponent when he played against Harrogate.
I'm with Kenny Blackburn. We continue to produce good young players through our U-18's and they are the ones who should be given the chance in a City shirt. Not Cheltenham youth players who are arguably no better.
Duffryn
30th May 2010, 17:23
I don't think for one moment that Noah is suggesting that we should take Robins players on loan no matter what - more that he is objecting to the derogatory attitude regarding anything or anybody to do with Cheltenham. I am absolutely NOT a Robins' supporter, and never will be, but I do admire what the club has achieved in the past few years, on what originally must have been a budget somewhere akin to City's. They must have got something right along the way.
At the end of the day we have to be grateful for the use of their ground - for a price, of course - and we have to trust in our manager to avoid 'dross', from wherever it may appear.
The Cleric
30th May 2010, 18:18
I align myself with both Noah and Duffryn. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to suggest that there is a prejudice with regard to anything Cheltenham Town by one or two that borders on the irrational. I understand the tenor of Noah's remarks that if a player is good enough it should not matter where he comes from. Sure, you are going to get some that don't cut the mustard from either Cheltenham Town, the Under 18's or wherever but they are soon found out and moved on.
If you look through the players section of 'The Complete Record of Gloucester City AFC 1883-2009' you will find many players who came via Cheltenham Town and made an impact.
None recently though I'll wager!
Fact is, no matter where they come from throwing an untried youngster into BSN, or now BS Bet North football isn't going to make much of a splash. Experience is what matters, if we need youth to make up the numbers then the club need look no further than our own under 18's.
Don Caster
30th May 2010, 19:45
Amen to that Neil. Far too many loanee failures recently. You rarely get quality or else they wouldn't be loaned out anyway.......
Philip Grace
31st May 2010, 09:10
I align myself with both Noah and Duffryn. It doesn't take a rocket scientist to suggest that there is a prejudice with regard to anything Cheltenham Town by one or two that borders on the irrational.
It is almost like it is an act of faith or a proving of manhood to abuse Cheltenham Town. One of the first things I put on this forum, not long after it originally started, was that I would alway refer to Cheltenham as Cheltenham not as Chelt****ham, The Scum or any other insult. I also said, and still stand by it, that I did not wish Cheltenham Town ill and the only time I hoped they would lose was when playing Gloucester. About a year ago on this forum I said that I was a supporter of Gloucester City and not a fan as fanatics often take things to far in life not just in football. Again there were comments that suggested being a fan was being a higher form of supporter.
One or two on this thread have taken umbrage with my comment that when weighing Lee Smith's goal tally as a contribution to the team they should disregard penalties. I was making the point that someone else would have taken any penalty awarded and scored more or less the same number; but the word penalty has been jumped on as though it was a personal insult to Lee. As insults go I consider the suggestion that David Mehew would sign and select a Cheltenham loanee just because Cheltenham are Gloucester's landords to be far more insulting. If that ever were the situation I would expect Mehew to resign to protect his integrity.
The word "fanatic" always makes me think of someone who is willing to continually slap their forehead until they bleed. I stop short of that.
Philip Grace
31st May 2010, 11:27
The word "fanatic" always makes me think of someone who is willing to continually slap their forehead until they bleed. I stop short of that.
Glad to hear that Neil. :)
tigermatty
31st May 2010, 11:36
was it not bound to appear suspicious when a cheltenham apprentice arrived on work experience shortly after the groundshare was announced at a time in the season when it seemed a perfect opportunity to blood some youth teamers? I'm all for loanees but work experience applicants must surely get to the back of the queue, can't have been good for the morale of our youngsters? as for the rivalry thing, like every other aspect of this game its pure pantomime, part of the enjoyment in my opinion as long as it doesn't turn into violence.
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It could have looked that way for sure, but I believe that the signing had been lined up some time before the groundshare was confirmed and the player would have come wherever our future lay in 10-11 ( i.e it might have been Worcester). He did not distinguish himself as it happened, (though I think that his pedigree was better than other duff loan signings), but I understand that he was a contingency signing negotiated ahead of a period where it looked as if we might be short of numbers and were still not out of the woods. Mark you, staying solvent seems to be the criterion that sees you through.
Sam Ellis stepped up from the youth team and, IMHO, always made a good contribution but it is a big step. Bridging that gap is a problem, obviously a bigger one now that we have progressed from the Southern League. It's an issue that should be addressed if it can be. Was not Kenny looking at fielding a team of youth team graduates at an advanced level ?
Philip Grace
31st May 2010, 14:44
Wasn't there talk of an under eighteen side playing in the Hellenic Reserve league. That would be a good idea as it would give the youngsters regular matches at open age level.
It is a big step up from age level games at any level to open age matches. Just think how many players selected for England at under seventeen, even under twenty one level, just drift into almost obscurity.
Shandy
1st June 2010, 12:02
.....gruff
city supporter
1st June 2010, 12:44
I don't think for one moment that Noah is suggesting that we should take Robins players on loan no matter what - more that he is objecting to the derogatory attitude regarding anything or anybody to do with Cheltenham. I am absolutely NOT a Robins' supporter, and never will be, but I do admire what the club has achieved in the past few years, on what originally must have been a budget somewhere akin to City's. They must have got something right along the way.
At the end of the day we have to be grateful for the use of their ground - for a price, of course - and we have to trust in our manager to avoid 'dross', from wherever it may appear.
Yes they did......Paul Baker !
Deary me, that guy couldn't look down his nose at the likes of us more if he tried.
darrenb
6th June 2010, 21:25
I really hope that Smithy stays with us for another season at least. He is a real threat when he is running at defenders and we would obviously miss his goals if he did leave. He also sets up a fair few goals as well and I would imagine he probably won us most of the penalties people have been talking about in this thread!!
If he does leave then I would hope it is for a club at a higher level rather than another club in our league or Blue Square South.
I reckon he'll wait until FGR know what league they're in, if they get a reprieve he'll go there, if they don't he's more likely to stay with us.
darrenb
6th June 2010, 21:42
I think you are probably right there although if they offered him more money and less travelling than if he was playing for us then I think he could be tempted.
Talking to Worcester now too...
WORCESTER City manager Carl Heeley is chasing Gloucester City winger Lee Smith.
The St George’s Lane chief admits he’s held talks with the 26-year-old who netted 18 goals in Blue Square Bet North last term.
Smith is currently stalling on a new contract with the Tigers after being offered a ‘take-it-or-leave-it’ deal by Gloucester boss Dave Mehew.
However, despite holding talks with the pacy wideman, Heeley is unsure whether Smith will make the switch from his home-town club.
“I’ve had a conversation with Lee but I would be surprised if it came off,” said Heeley.
Smith has spent most of his career at Gloucester, rising through the ranks before making a move to Cirencester Town for £5,000.
After two years at the Corinium Stadium he joined Weston-super-Mare but returned to Gloucester following a handful of games in 2007.
Smith has made more than 350 appearances, scoring 71 times for the Tigers, after making his debut aged 17.
http://www.worcesternews.co.uk/sport/8208049.Smith_on_the_wanted_list_for_City_boss_Hee ley/
Darran
9th June 2010, 19:00
Id be annoyed if he went to Worcester.
Lee is better than Worcester. It's a sideways step at best, if not a backwards one. They should have been relegated from our level last year. I think he might regret it, so hope he stays for his own sake as well as City's.
He says he'll only leave if it's to a higher league.
Exiled
9th June 2010, 20:42
He says he'll only leave if it's to a higher league.
I do not know about a higher league, but he will not play on many finer grounds in his career than ours next season!
The grass is always greener, far away!
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city supporter
9th June 2010, 21:05
Deary me, that guy couldn't look down his nose at the likes of us more if he tried.
If you are talking of Mr. Baker Neil, here I have to disagree. Noah and I met him when the Robins formed their Trust and I have to say he couldn't have praised our Club more and all the efforts the supporters had made.
Neil
15th June 2010, 18:11
Signing for a BSP club on Thursday according to his Facebook. FGR then.
daveangel
15th June 2010, 19:11
Bath i reckon....and hope.
I heard FGR are having a mix of full-time, part-time, and Hartpury players. My money says Smudger will be one fo the part-timers.
Girlsilver
16th June 2010, 07:30
I heard FGR are having a mix of full-time, part-time, and Hartpury players. My money says Smudger will be one fo the part-timers.
Hockaday said the other day that if their were players with jobs who wanted to play for FGR and were good enough they would be encorporated into the team - I know of one other player who this may also apply to...they want a core of full timers, bulked up with part-time experienced players and Hartpury boys
Neil
16th June 2010, 10:14
So they're not really going part time then? Just making all the right noises.
Sledge
16th June 2010, 10:19
We've just lost our Smudge, so we need a replacement.
sport_glos
17th June 2010, 14:11
http://sportglos.co.uk/?p=457
Neil
17th June 2010, 14:12
Beat me to it.
tigermatty
17th June 2010, 14:33
although I wish him well in his career, I hope they get relegated :D
clifty
17th June 2010, 15:07
although I wish him well in his career, I hope they get relegated :D
Ditto
Neil
17th June 2010, 15:24
relegated on the field or off the field?
Woody
17th June 2010, 16:10
relegated on the field or off the field?
Both!!
Forest Gump
17th June 2010, 16:17
Just when I thought we could become friends, there you all go again ! Getting all bitter and twisted, get over yourselves.
Just a thought, it might even help you all have meaningful personal lifes.
Love
Forest x x
Neil
17th June 2010, 16:25
It's just an observation. Hockaday hasn't really signed too many experienced conference players has he?
Forest Gump
17th June 2010, 16:27
Sorry, what about - Bitner, Jones, Armstrong, Fowler, Fowler, Hodgkiss. Few conference games between that lot.
Neil
17th June 2010, 16:31
How many Conference games has Mike Fowler played?
Ian Herring has played most of his career below the BSP, Smudge will try but might get found out.
You lot don't recall Tim Harris' second spell with much love. This could be the same.
Joycie
17th June 2010, 17:10
It's just an observation. Hockaday hasn't really signed too many experienced conference players has he?
I'm actually very surprised by the standard of players Hockaday has brought in. Tying lads like Hodgkiss down to contracts for another year and using his Premier League experience should prove useful as well as Luke Jones from Mansfield who was a big name for them up there. Bittner was also a very good keeper for Salisbury last season and the return of Lee Fowler is pretty big.
The tiny squad we're set to have will very likely prove our downfall however these signings today seem impressive.
Unlike you guys and your jealousy towards us hopefully City will be looking at a top half finish this coming season. The introduction of lads from Weston who know the level you're playing at well to replace the lads who have previously come from the Southern League and not quite made it should prove beneficial for you guys next season I'd imagine.
Forest Gump
17th June 2010, 17:13
Didnt mention Herring in that half dozen names. Mike Fowler had one full season at Salisbury (30 ish games). Not sure what your point actually is !
Lee Smith has left Gloucester to better himself, the same way Platt and Smith left us. Accept it, its football !
daveangel
17th June 2010, 17:26
I don't begrudge Smudge going on to play at a higher level, i just wish it was at a club who merited being there. That said, i still wish him well, as i'm sure we all do. Hoping we get drawn together in a cup this season, we could all do with a local derby!
Girlsilver
17th June 2010, 17:41
Smudge has clearly impressed Hockaday - have a look at http://www.sportglos.co.uk
Darran
17th June 2010, 17:54
I would say their first 11 will probably be pretty decent but as has been said it looks like they wont have a big squad and that will be their downfall although Ive got a feeling they might just about survive sadly.
Neil
17th June 2010, 17:56
Lee Smith has left Gloucester to better himself, the same way Platt and Smith left us. Accept it, its football !He's left us to have a go at playing in a higher league. Although playing in a team that may well be among the favourites for relegation may not do much for him.
clifty
17th June 2010, 20:32
New Forest Green Rovers keeper James Bittner said he can’t wait to hear the fans at the New Lawn.
guess he doesnt realise how shit the fgr fans are! lol!
Pablo
17th June 2010, 23:50
I wonder if those kids that were having a go at their manager at the end of the season will be at the New Lawn again?
Girlsilver
18th June 2010, 07:24
One bit of news that cheered me up at the press conf yesterday...
That bellend keeper from Northwich has left the country. According to Ian Herring he is now playing in Australia!
I think Smudge was interviewed by Radio Glos, not sure when that will be on tho
ncats
18th June 2010, 10:58
Ahh you Glos City fans do cheer me up,reading through the absolute dribble you speak on here.
I know you are favourites for relegation but we certainly wont be,we will be mid table next season,we are assembling a good squad and will only get better with the additions he will make.
I was at one of your games last season (for my sins) and I can certainly see why Smith is joining us,The difference from BSS/N TO BSP is massive.
Enjoy your time at Cheltenham
we will be mid table next season,we are assembling a good squad and will only get better with the additions he will make.
Do you lot never get bored of saying that at the start of every season, and then ending up in or around the relegation places regardless? You are all deluded. You finished in the relgation zone last season, and the players you have signed aren't as good as the players who have left you. Do you really expect to do any better this year? I hope you do, but I can't see it.
Good luck.
Ahh you Glos City fans do cheer me up,reading through the absolute dribble you speak on here
Likewise
Darran
18th June 2010, 13:16
Ahh you Glos City fans do cheer me up,reading through the absolute dribble you speak on here.
I know you are favourites for relegation but we certainly wont be,we will be mid table next season,we are assembling a good squad and will only get better with the additions he will make.
I was at one of your games last season (for my sins) and I can certainly see why Smith is joining us,The difference from BSS/N TO BSP is massive.
Enjoy your time at Cheltenham
I follow the BSP closely and Im pretty certain in will be in the bottom 8 this season. Theres a fair bit of strength and depth in the league and you will struggle to get into mid-table and I also think 3 of the 4 promoted sides will finish above you so the gap isnt going to be as big as you think.
clifty
18th June 2010, 14:45
If the Gap is that big then smudge may struggle! There were some defenders in our league that had him in their pocket!
Ells
18th June 2010, 16:46
Remeber he tried before and failed although I feel his level is BSN or S I wish him good luck and we will welcome him back next year
Neil
18th June 2010, 17:55
He didn't.
Noah
19th June 2010, 09:25
I fear that Lee Smith's departure does not bring out the best side of my nature, and so I shall say nothing. (Whoops ! perhaps I just did)
city supporter
19th June 2010, 17:28
I fear that Lee Smith's departure does not bring out the best side of my nature, and so I shall say nothing. (Whoops ! perhaps I just did)
Agree on that Noah !
tigermatty
19th June 2010, 18:55
I wonder if in a years time we will see suspicious posts from new users on the Fgr forum linking lee with league clubs?
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