COF Election exit poll

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Who did you vote for in the General Election?

[Simon]

Labour for me. Parmijit is the best for Gloucester and Gloucester City by a wide margin. I really hope he stays as our MP.

[clifty]

Labour for me. Parmijit is the best for Gloucester and Gloucester City by a wide margin. I really hope he stays as our MP.
Dito! Completely agree! And this country would never have gotten through this GLOBAL mess under Tory control! In labour I trust!!!

[Dr Wart Hoover]

Parmjit - great bloke, best MP I've seen... but alas, a vote for Parmjit is a vote for Gordon

Gordon's deregulation of the banks set up the crash in this country. His borrowing in the good times and the bad times put the national debt where it is today. That does not merit another 5 years.

Apparently, BIGOT means Brown Is Gone On Thursday.

[Mini-Vac]

Labour for me. Parmijit is the best for Gloucester and Gloucester City by a wide margin. I really hope he stays as our MP.

Yep, I'll agree with that. Indeed I did, used my postal vote on Monday.
Not a Labour supporter nationally, mind, but it's the local MP who's important.

[Si Robin]

Lib Dem for me, its a wasted vote in Tewkesbury, but the day I vote Tory is the day we live in a Tory dictatorship with no-one else to vote for.

[mowerman]

people borrowing money they could not pay back got us in this mess, at the time when the banks were charging small business for paying in money,and remember oct 19th 1987.

[Neil]

This is how all politics should be!

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1273583/General-Election-2010-BNP-candidate-Bob-Bailey-filmed-fighting-Asian-men-key-battle-ground-Barking.html?ITO=1490

[penalty]

Yeah I saw that yesterday!! He gave that lad a bit of a pasting didn't he? It didn't look pretty.... But thats what happens when you build a party based on facism, I suppose.

[Joe]

What interests me is who is going to vote Conservative. The papers seem to be backing Cameron, and I get the feeling he's going to win, but I haven't heard one person openly admit that they're going to vote blue.

I'm red by the way.

[Neil]

Penno, the guy that spat at him got what he deserved, however, I don't think it looks good for a prospective parliamentary candidate to be caught on film putting the boot in!

Joe - The Tory voters seem to keep themselves quiet. It looks around Innsworth that Lib Dems are nailed on winners but nobber further on up reckons they have no chance in Tewkesbury!

[penalty]

I think pensioners might go strong on Tory.... No idea why though, Tories aren't exactly renowned for strong social policy. I think its going to be a bad night for Labs & Cons & a good night for the LD's. Hung parliament with Tory largest party to miniscule Tory majority would be my prediction. Either way, another election in 2010.

[tigermatty]

Voting Tory isn't considered 'fashionable' which is why not many people will admit to it these days. Labour's spin machine worked wonders in that respect. I think a lot of self employed people traditionally vote tory too

[Si Robin]

Innsworth that Lib Dems are nailed on winners but nobber further on up reckons they have no chance in Tewkesbury!

Thank you for the affectionate nickname Neil.

My reason for believing Lib Dem have no chance is purely based on the last elections results where the Tories had a 22% majority. Admittedly there have been boundary changes, but I think even with a revised result it was something like a 19% majority, which I just don't see Lib Dem overturning (although I hope they do).

[daveangel]

Nobber is quite complimentary. You should hear what he calls our articulate friend, the Right F*cking Honourable Sh1tting M&labus. ;)

[Darran]

Tories always win in Tewkesbury and Ladbrokes have them at 1/100 to win there today. I voted Lib Dem where I live as they have the best chance of being in front of Labour otherwise I would have voted Tory.
By the way the betting in Gloucester sees the Tories as favourites to win the seat.

[Pablo]

I'm red by the way.

Why? Have you just walked up the stairs with your KFC Bargain Bucket?

[Neil]

Lib Dem on both counts for me, I may have wasted my vote nationally but it was either that or not bother. I've only ever known Conservative or Labour rule and would like to see a shift from power for both.

[dommotyger]

Lib Dem on both counts for me, I may have wasted my vote nationally but it was either that or not bother. I've only ever known Conservative or Labour rule and would like to see a shift from power for both.

What a waste then!

[MaxiJazz]

I don't know how anyone could even consider voting Tory after the catastrophic years of Thatcher and Major....Never again!.. She pretty much destroyed the infrastructure of this country leaving Labour to clear up the mess..

[Dr Wart Hoover]

...and yet the Tories won the seat

[Simon]

...and yet the Tories won the seat

This vote is very bad for Gloucester City. Parmjit was clearly a football man. The Tory MP is a massive Rugby fan.

This can't be good for our stadium quest, can it?

[ItmustbeCity]

Here endeth the lesson in trusting exit polls :eek:

[Mini-Vac]

Gloucester is doomed.

[RedShift]

Here endeth the lesson in trusting exit polls :eek:

Why - the exit polls were spot on?

[Ells]

Never trust any of them, the biggest smile was when Jaqui Smith lost her seat, her old man will have to pay for his own movies from now!

With regards to the stadium it is the local councilers that count not teh MP's i am sure that Mr Graham will follow this through!!!

[ItmustbeCity]

This one wasn't ;)

[tigermatty]

that's what you get for lying about which way you are voting in the commons...

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[Lee]

Although not wanting a labour government due to my students roots and them basically screwing us with a £20,000 debt on graduating, Parmjit has done nothing wrong since being in office and I feel for him this morning.

[Joe]

Although not wanting a labour government due to my students roots and them basically screwing us with a £20,000 debt on graduating, Parmjit has done nothing wrong since being in office and I feel for him this morning.

Yes I felt absolutely rogered that I got a vitrually interest free loan for my education. They should just slap all university fees on to the taxes of the general public shouldn't they? :mad:

NO. The state cannot prop up universities as well. The economy is struggling enough as it is. A free university education would result everyone going to uni just to dodge getting a job.

[Lee]

It was only through a bit of luck and a previous contact that I got a decent job after graduating, and its not even related to my degree. In my opinion Labour have ****ed up uni education with too many people in pointless degrees and paying £3000 a year for the privilege.

BTW/ Interest on the loan is at the rate of inflation, if inflation is 5% (which is entirely feasible), a £20,000 loan would incur £1000 of interest. You also pay back at a rate of 20% of your income above £15,000. Sure you won't find a better deal on the high street, but my family who went through uni with conservative governments didn't have this debt.

[Neil]

A free university education would result everyone going to uni just to dodge getting a job.Is it my imagination or have there been more universities and more people going to university under the Labour government, itself a handy way of keeping youth unemployment down.

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Lib Dems hold Cheltenham.... With a much increased majority!

[penalty]

Is it my imagination or have there been more universities and more people going to university under the Labour government, itself a handy way of keeping youth unemployment down.

A government that socially engineers? Never!! ;)

[Lee]

Too many Neil. The lib dems have a good plan of scrapping tuition fees within 6 years and providing more vocational courses. I am all in favour of this as the country needs more skilled tradesmen. At my uni (bournemouth) some of the courses were laughable....interior design, cartoon animation and surf science spring to mind!

[Dr Wart Hoover]

"interior design, cartoon animation and surf science" - that sounds one excellent course

[Mini-Vac]

Too many Neil. The lib dems have a good plan of scrapping tuition fees within 6 years and providing more vocational courses. I am all in favour of this as the country needs more skilled tradesmen. At my uni (bournemouth) some of the courses were laughable....interior design, cartoon animation and surf science spring to mind!

How about Computer Games Design? I... Er, someone I know, a friend of a friend really, is doing that...

[MaxiJazz]

Like all elections I would like to bet that within 6 months you won't find one person who is willing to admit they voted tory.

[Mini-Vac]

Like all elections I would like to bet that within 6 months you won't find one person who is willing to admit they voted tory.

What do you mean "within 6 months"? I can't find anyone who voted Tory now!

[BobCarolgees]

So does anyone know where if at all Gloucester City is on Richard Graham's radar...?

[Neil]

I did ask when he was canvassing but have forgotten what he said. I should've gotten the camcorder out!

[pylonsider]

Parmjit - great bloke, best MP I've seen... but alas, a vote for Parmjit is a vote for Gordon

Gordon's deregulation of the banks set up the crash in this country. His borrowing in the good times and the bad times put the national debt where it is today. That does not merit another 5 years.

Apparently, BIGOT means Brown Is Gone On Thursday.

In some ways I do agree with you Dr Wart .... I'm ashamed that Blair Labour went with the short term option of continuing the trend to 'go with the bankers'. However, even after the non-event of this election, I wish Brown had made more of the fact that in the '97 parliament, he raked in the tax take from the financial based policy priority in that Government primarily to pay off, in full, the massive borrowing liability the Major government had left behind.

I don't know, and I doubt Parmjit could tell us, why the Labour financial policy after that was to continue the trend and not to stamp down hard on the gigantic tax evasion that developed and which led us to the huge liability of today. No doubt the explanation (no comfort now) would be something on the lines of ' We did not dare alienate the market' Too late now but that was totally exposed in 08 when the crash started to emerge. They screwed us. And even now, with al this rubbish now being worked over, nobody seems willing to step up and nail the massive excess that a tiny segment of the population appear to be safeguarding.

I find it ironic - Greece is in deep doo doo because the national sport of Greece has been for many years to avoid paying tax. Yet, with the mean wage in UK being £22k, with the vast majority of people paying tax through PAYE, we continue to allow the top 2-5% to evade tax with apparent impunity.

Now, no Parmjit, a proper MP and instead the voters of Glos seem to have bought the con and gone sTory. Very hard times ahead - go whistle for any support for getting New Meadow Park up and running from that source.

Stand on Yr Own Two feet, ye shysters, is the normal response .... only consolation is that if Parmjit can stick around, within 2 years there will be a chance to vote him back again, in a Non-Brown Britain!

whoo! Who'd a thunk it, a political rant on CoF!

[NI-Branch]

Whole heartidly agree pylonsider.

Here's a prediction, forget the 4 million unemployed+ we had under the last Tory Government, it's going to be worse again.

But for all you very very rich people it's quids in. So the Tory party aren't going to do alot for the majority of people, they are for the "Have a lot already brigade".

The NHS was safe in Labour's Hands............just wait and see what happens to it under the Conservatives.

Education has been a success under Labour, standards have improved, there are more people going to UNI. The Tory's will do what they do best.....Tinker....Devalue....Destroy.

Reality Check or Rant Over.

I voted DUP, so that the UUP/Conservatives got no seats.......mission accomplished lol

[MaxiJazz]

What do you mean "within 6 months"? I can't find anyone who voted Tory now!
Seems that way already does'nt it.. The Tories got the votes by putting the frighteners on a thick,gullible and ungrateful populace.. Never mind hopefully we will still have a LibLab pact.Just watch the tory knives come out then for David Cameron.

[tigermatty]

sadly folks we don't live in a society where only one party gets into power every time, that would be a dictatorship wouldn't it? deal with it!

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[Joe]

So does anyone know where if at all Gloucester City is on Richard Graham's radar...?

We do get a mention on his website here (http://www.richardgraham.org/new/sports.htm). Looking round the site he looks decent enough. Seems to be a better bloke than a lot of other local Consevatives I've met. I'll give him a chance.

On our friend Parmjit, he was dancing the night away at Bounce in Cafe Rene last night, continuing to be an absolutely top bloke.

[city supporter]

Perhaps Mr. Clegg should be told that the last time the Lib.Dems held a Labour Party in power, they had the worse figures ever in the following next General Election. [Personally I would and have, never voted for them again] The Country has voted...the Conservatives received the biggest shout, albeit not a workable one. That is democracy for you and Mr. Clegg should stop messing around. To take a week to make up his mind and run backwards and forwards between two camps is making us a total laughing stock in Europe and for that matter the rest of the world.. The financial markets wont wear this much longer and we shall be further in the doo doo's.

[magner]

Perhaps Mr. Clegg should be told that the last time the Lib.Dems held a Labour Party in power, they had the worse figures ever in the following next General Election. [Personally I would and have, never voted for them again] The Country has voted...the Conservatives received the biggest shout, albeit not a workable one. That is democracy for you and Mr. Clegg should stop messing around. To take a week to make up his mind and run backwards and forwards between two camps is making us a total laughing stock in Europe and for that matter the rest of the world.. The financial markets wont wear this much longer and we shall be further in the doo doo's.

Hear hear , we are being held to ransom by a bingo party, get the sqatter out of no 10 before hes steals all the copper piping and lead off the roof!

[tastyfish]

To take a week to make up his mind and run backwards and forwards between two camps is making us a total laughing stock in Europe and for that matter the rest of the world..
Our outdated electoral system makes us the laughing stock of the world! How can it be that a party that received over 25% the votes of the UK voters is left with a little more than 10% of the power? There is a myth that PR leads to weak government. And our first-past-the-post system doesn't..?!

I voted LIb Dem because I do want a fair society, one that reflects a 'work-hard, play-hard' attitude. One that reinstates common sense back into the nanny state that Labour has brought about. We needed to be fairer on those that contribute and tougher on those who won't, whilst supporting those that genuinely can't.

[Dr Wart Hoover]

let's see if we can change the world with a new government representing 60% of the voters.

[MaxiJazz]

QUOTE=tastyfish;2210]Our outdated electoral system makes us the laughing stock of the world! How can it be that a party that received over 25% the votes of the UK voters is left with a little more than 10% of the power? There is a myth that PR leads to weak government. And our first-past-the-post system doesn't..?!

I voted LIb Dem because I do want a fair society, one that reflects a 'work-hard, play-hard' attitude. One that reinstates common sense back into the nanny state that Labour has brought about. We needed to be fairer on those that contribute and tougher on those who won't, whilst supporting those that genuinely can't.[/QUOTE]

All good Socialist principles and not Liberal by the way!... you are getting your mods mixed up with your rockers there mate..... and if any of you can remember what a state Britain was in after the Tories were booted out last time then you would never let them anywhere near Parliament or our local councils again.. It made todays problems look like a storm in a teacup.. Conservatism is an anachronism in todays world and they will be consigned to history when this lash-up Government falls apart at the seams at the first big hurdle..

[NI-Branch]

The comments about Mr Clegg taking too long to explore the different options regarding who he partnered up with and "making us a laughing stock in Europe". Someone should really do so more research into how long it takes for Governments to be formed in Europe. It can take weeks, even months to form arrangements in many of these countries. There are now I believe only 3 countries in Europe with a governing party who has an overall majority.

"PR" will result nearly always in a hung paliament and the "to and throwing" we have seen over the past few days.

A Conservative government with a free rein would have been dangerous, at least the Liberals hopefully will be able to rein them in.

I would have preferred a Lib/Lab progressive government but the numbers never really added up.

[magner]

spellings needed and brainwashed

[Mini-Vac]

Whatever the result, I'm in favour of keeping our current system. Although not knowing much about foreign politics, it seems that Germany (With its Proportional Representation) ALWAYS has a minority government with coalitions. Whilst it must work for them (They haven't changed it in however many years), it does mean things take longer to do, and are generally less radical. Which could be a good thing in some cases, and bad in others. But that's just my thought for today...

[Dr Wart Hoover]

I voted Liberal Democrat - and I have got a deputy PM.

Welcome to the new world

[clifty]

For once I agree with NI, I can sleep a little easier knowing that clegg and co are there to keep some control over conservative policy! That said it is like the rich boys drinking club in government now!

I would be pretty pissed off if I voted lib dem for their policies, as they seem to have gone out of the window!

For me the winners are labour though! This government WILL **** this country up, they will become disliked and with the lib-con coalition, labour will be the only opposition!

[Alex]

I agree Clifty. If you had to engineer a way back for Labour, this is exactly what you would have done.

[tastyfish]

All good Socialist principles and not Liberal by the way!... you are getting your mods mixed up with your rockers there mate.....

Hardly! The Labour way is to make sure those who don't want to graft can benefit from those that do. I'm all for helping those that are genuinely in need, but I'm not working my socks off so that some lazy hanger-on who is able to work chooses to sponge off the state at my expense instead!

I voted Lib Dem as out of all the parties their policies and ideals were closest to mine. I believe in a fair deal for everyone. I don't agree with everything they represent but then I don't agree with everything the others do either. I doubt many people would agree with all the policies of their chosen party but then how many people bother reading the manifestos or doing some proper research instead of reading what their favourite paper tells them?! A good pace to check is votematch.com (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/election-2010/7541285/How-should-I-vote-in-the-General-Election-2010.html)

I can't believe a party I thought wouldn't get in now has representation at the most senior level in British politics. Can't argue with that.

[MaxiJazz]

[QUOTE=tastyfish;2264]Hardly! The Labour way is to make sure those who don't want to graft can benefit from those that do. I'm all for helping those that are genuinely in need, but I'm not working my socks off so that some lazy hanger-on who is able to work chooses to sponge off the state at my expense instead!


QUOTE]

The trouble with that is this lot will throw the baby out with the bath-water.I am willing in a free and fair society to work and pay taxes and national insurance my whole life to protect the unemployed and sick in the grateful knowledge that I have kept a job and not become ill.Yes,of course catch the malingerers and close any loopholes but I fear we will all rue the day very soon when these two over privileged boys begin to wield the knife on a working society that they know nothing about at all.

[Lee]

I would be pretty pissed off if I voted lib dem for their policies, as they seem to have gone out of the window!

I'm Lib Dem, and this is the most influence and power they are ever going to get in westminster, they were never going to win the election.

[clifty]

I'm Lib Dem, and this is the most influence and power they are ever going to get in westminster, they were never going to win the election.

They don't have any power, i was listening to radio 5 yesterday, and they were talking to the candidates in the area that hasn't voted yet, the cons member reminded the lib dem candidate that the cons are the majority and the party that has the power! These next 5 years will **** lib dem over big style! When it goes tits up, the cons will keep their strong voters, but lib dem don't have that luxury!

[RegCubit]

Apparently they have come up with a new name for the coalition, theConDemned Party

[1wordwonder]

We needed to be fairer on those that contribute and tougher on those who won't, whilst supporting those that genuinely can't.

....Right-on!

[Dr Wart Hoover]

give the new politics a chance.

[Lee]

give the new politics a chance.

Absolutely Dr Wart, typical of this country that people are so cynical.