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BP!
1st May 2008, 02:53 PM
Some pretty worrying comments form Tim here from a gloucester point of view:

New faces on way to County
Exclusive By Michael Pearlman
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POSSIBLE RECRUIT: Ex-County manager Tim Harris could be on his way to the Exiles in a director of football role
NEWPORT County could be set to appoint either John Relish or Tim Harris in a director of football role, the Argus understands.

Chairman Chris Blight is keen to offer a board role to a football person' putting ex-County managers Relish and Harris firmly in the frame.

Blight also revealed he will meet with the entire playing staff this evening and will tell them that they are free to look for other clubs if they so wish.

Blight insists he will not be rushed into appointing the next manager or coach of the club after sacking Peter Beadle on Sunday, but is hopeful most of the current players will await developments before making any decision on their future.

The Argus understands that Harris and Relish are being targeted as the men to take on the role of director of football, making them a direct contact at board level for Beadle's successor.

Bath City boss Relish has already expressed his desire to reunite with the Exiles and Harris, also a former player and manager of the club today reveals he too is keen on a Spytty Park return.

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Harris, is currently the manager of Gloucester City, steering them to sixth in the Southern League despite having a relatively small budget and losing their ground to flood damage at the start of the campaign.

With regard to a potential return to Newport he commented: "Newport County are extremely close to my heart, but I can't say what the future holds. What I can say is that nothing would please me more than to help the club get into the Conference and then back into the Football League."

Blight, who has revealed he's already talked to seven candidates to succeed Beadle, confirmed he would like to bring a football person' into the boardroom, but wouldn't confirm whether than person would be earmarked for a specific role.

"As a board we take advice from a varied audience and certain people have a far greater experience within the game than we do.

"The board is comprised of business people and if we had the opportunity to bring in a football person with management experience then clearly that would be a wise move.

"It is a good idea to have football people on the board, it is something we're looking into."

With regard to his impending meeting with the current playing staff, Blight confirmed that the board WILL NOT be offering new deals until they make managerial appointments.

"It is absolutely right that our players are entitled to speak to whomever they wish as they are all out of contract," he said.

"I am not going to be rushed into making an appointment and if people choose to leave then that is their prerogative and we will sign replacement players.

"Newport County is a magnet for players, several players have already called me and that is an eye-opener.

"But we have a lot of good players in the squad and I am sure our next manager will want to keep some of them."

On the subject of players leaving the club, Harris commented: "The grass is not always greener and I am sure the players who are committed to the club will sit tight for a while and see what the future holds."

Graham
1st May 2008, 03:12 PM
It would be catastrophic if Tim Harris left this club with all the good hard work that he has completed, I feel that all who use forum should use this to say thanks to Tim and the team and request that he stays with City. I as one have been saying for years that he good times are around the corner but for once it looks as they are, once the new ground is sorted.

Neil
1st May 2008, 03:40 PM
I would suspect that Tim may've been misquoted by the press. He's spent lots of time with County as player and manager and would naturally wish them well but can anyone honestly see him relinquishing his job on the touchline?

However, it's at times like this when we need to realise what a great asset he is to our club and indeed what a loss it would be if we were to lose him.

TigerMark
1st May 2008, 03:51 PM
Agree with Neil, he is more than our manager. From my understanding he puts in countless hours in areas that most managers wouldn't be involved in, such as commercial and board room matters. We are very fortunate to have him and I just hope Tim sticks with us and builds on the foundations he has laid here.

Neil
1st May 2008, 04:03 PM
Newport fans viewpoint mainly here (http://www.the-exiles.co.uk/viewtopic.php?f=1&t=6952&start=60)

yates jr
1st May 2008, 04:46 PM
Tim likes the club so much and managing us that he does it for nothing that must say something

Neil
1st May 2008, 04:58 PM
But it can't continue can it? He deserves a reward for his work and it would be niave and unfair to think that it should carry on.

ItmustbeCity
1st May 2008, 06:27 PM
I would suspect that Tim may've been misquoted by the press. He's spent lots of time with County as player and manager and would naturally wish them well but can anyone honestly see him relinquishing his job on the touchline?

However, it's at times like this when we need to realise what a great asset he is to our club and indeed what a loss it would be if we were to lose him.

Spot on Neil, hopefully its just the local paper trying to shift a few extra copies

Joe
1st May 2008, 09:45 PM
It was be devestating for Tim to leave us.

He is the thing that makes us really special at the moment.

Citizen
2nd May 2008, 12:05 AM
Papers don't always misquote people . . .
We have spoken to Tim about this - story in tomorrow's Cit.

Kingo
2nd May 2008, 08:59 AM
I hope like all of us that Tim realises that he has started something big here and hope that he stays to see it progress onwards and upwards.

Neil
2nd May 2008, 10:35 AM
Story here (http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=232357&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231781&contentPK=20527139&folderPk=110050&pNodeId=231927)

Dommotyger
2nd May 2008, 10:46 AM
Let's just wait and see however if he goes I wish him all the best of luck second time round and thanks for all the hard unpaid work you have done!

Tiger Andy
2nd May 2008, 11:13 AM
To plagiarise Blackadder IV, "Wrote a note in my diary on the way here. Simply said - bugger". :frown:

NI-Branch
2nd May 2008, 11:56 AM
If or when Glouceter City get back to the City and if they continue to be successful they will attract crowds of 600+ again.

Will Tim Harris wait for this ? Probably not

I say this because there has been no announcement on the new ground, if there had been it would have been something that we can look forward to, plan for.

I think Tim should stay and finish the work he has begun, but I appreciate he should be paid well for doing so and he is putting in a lot of hours for the club. If I was in his shoes I would work those hours because of my love for the Club.

If he goes, will the players stay, I'm not sure because I think many of them are staying because of Tim's Managerial style and obvious ability to manage at a higher level.

Financially, we need some heavy weight backers, something we haven't been able to find, partly this has been because of financial mis-management of this club over many years.

If he goes then I am in favour of a Mehew/Adie Harris management duo.

bobcarolgees
2nd May 2008, 12:51 PM
We produced an absolute miracle at Gloucester this season, but it's been tough and I'm not sure if I can give the same kind of commitment for another 12 months.

"The fans have been fantastic, but we've only been getting crowds between two and three hundred this season. When is the club going back to Gloucester and where are Gloucester City going?

Very worrying comments, not just about the fact that Tim might go but also that it is plainly obvious the ground situation is still completley up in the air with that quote.I know the club is working hard behind the scenes but when the manager is as in the dark as us supporters it makes you think... :mad:

Lee
2nd May 2008, 12:52 PM
Not good comments at all, will be very disapointed if Tim goes and I fear for the club if he does...worrying few weeks ahead.

Graham
2nd May 2008, 12:58 PM
Does any one know what is the delay is with the announcement of the new ground location, I would hope that if this was announced Tim would stay as he has something to look forward to. True our crowds would be much higher, possibly double at the end of last season!

Woody
2nd May 2008, 01:03 PM
This is worrying, :frown: Tim is obviously feeling as disillusioned with the ground situation as the rest of us. :confused: The only surprise is that this has come out after several key players have already signed up for next season, I would have thought that they had been given assurances by the manager of his continued commitment before putting pen to paper. I could be wrong on that point but they obviously enjoy playing for Tim and that would have been one of the main reasons for them signing up, that and our great bunch of supporters of course!:wink::smile:

bobcarolgees
2nd May 2008, 01:04 PM
I'm afraid its all cloak and dagger stuff now which after Quedgeley I can understand to a degree, unfortunatley it means us supporters are constantly on tenderhooks. God knows how the players feel.

I can see us being out in the wilderness for a long while, I bet three quarters of Gloucester doesnt even know this is going on :frown:

tigermatty
2nd May 2008, 01:21 PM
As much as I appreciate all the great work that Tim has done in taking the club to where it is right now, I think those quotes are a bit out of order and unprofessional. I'd almost go so far as to say it's an insult to the club.

Neil
2nd May 2008, 01:31 PM
Hows that Matt? I think the people of Gloucester are more of an insult when only 300 will come to watch the football team.

tigermatty
2nd May 2008, 01:40 PM
Don't get me wrong, I think Tim is 100% the right man for the job, provided he wants to be here, but I think it's wrong to come out with those kind of comments whilst you are still at a club. If he wants to leave then I wish him the best of luck but at least wait until the deal is sealed before publically stating how much you would like to bring success to another club. These are the kind of comments you normally see from a player or manager who has been ill-treated by their club, as far as I know the club has always been 100%behind Tim. What I would have liked to have read is 'I am the Manager of Gloucester City and I'm concentrating on building the squad for next season'. As it is we don't know where we stand.

Woody
2nd May 2008, 01:46 PM
Fair play Matt, you know how to create lively debate. :wink:

Neil
2nd May 2008, 01:48 PM
I spoke to him yesterday, he said that those comments were borne from his experience of being a player at Newport as a youngster when they were a league side and also the six and a half years that he spent as manager there. He also has many friends and contacts down there still and would naturally wish them all the success that they deserve.

Thats why I said he may've been misquoted...

tigermatty
2nd May 2008, 01:50 PM
I spoke to him yesterday, he said that those comments were borne from his experience of being a player at Newport as a youngster when they were a league side and also the six and a half years that he spent as manager there. He also has many friends and contacts down there still and would naturally wish them all the success that they deserve.

Thats why I said he may've been misquoted...

I suppose we should expect a statement from Tim clarifying his position shortly then.

bobcarolgees
2nd May 2008, 01:59 PM
I do understand what Matt is saying here, the comments are (they way in which they are written) almost a come and get me plea to Newport. I think we have to remember Tim works hard, long hours for very little money, with little budget for a club with no ground and a support which has diminished due to travelling distances.

Newport would offer him a decent wage, they are a club with a large fan base (average 1,000+), are close to getting into the conference and more importanly have their own ground (well to a degree anyway!)

The major thing is the wages and security in terms of the clubs future, something unfortunatley we havent got. Look at it in terms of us- if we were working 14 hour days all week for a pittance yet managed against all odds to be very succesfull at your job yet still are in the dark about progression, job and club security etc and then get a more attractive offer from a bigger business would you stick around??

Neil
2nd May 2008, 02:07 PM
He's not going to be in the dark about the ground development though is he?

Woody
2nd May 2008, 02:11 PM
Look at it in terms of us- if we were working 14 hour days all week for a pittance yet managed against all odds to be very succesfull at your job yet still are in the dark about progression, job and club security etc and then get a more attractive offer from a bigger business would you stick around??


Right that's it then Bob, I'm waiting for the offers to come rolling in!:wink::biggrin:

bobcarolgees
2nd May 2008, 02:11 PM
Maybe not-who knows? All you can make out from that quote is that he's either not in the know, or if he is nothing is happening :mad:

Taff
2nd May 2008, 04:07 PM
Naturally, being an ex-supporter, I have been following the recent developments at Newport with interest. There has been extensive coverage in the South Wales Argus, following the departure of Beadle. Their failure to make the play-offs yet again, has clearly upset Blight and the Directors of the club (how on earth did they miss out!).

The Chairman is extemely ambitious, and craves for National Conference football for his club. Newport are a "big" non league club, with potentially a huge fan base. Regaining their football league status, with a possible return to the glory days of the Somerton Park era, is clearly high on the agenda.

Tim, being ambituous, is naturally interested in being part of this new set up. A huge loss to our club, but one we will no doubt overcome. A hugely likable chap, I wish Tim every success.

Graham
2nd May 2008, 04:21 PM
Taff,

You are saying that Tim is leaving, do you know something already! Maybe we need a statement from GCFC direct?

yates jr
2nd May 2008, 07:58 PM
I hope this doesn't mean that he is leaveing :frown:
This could end up with bad consequences if this were to happen :frown:

i think he should stay and bring some of the newport player to us :biggrin:

Darran
2nd May 2008, 09:10 PM
Lets be fair we arent going to get big crowds until we are back in Gloucester or we happen to be going for promotion next year. I want Tim to stay but I can understand why he would want to go.

city supporter
2nd May 2008, 09:15 PM
I have been concerned for a while that TH had been working extremely hard for this Club both on and off the field.
In fact I stated that the one person I would like to see on a contract was Tim! At the Cirencester game Tim sent a message to me that he didn't need a contract, he was staying at Gloucester City.

Pablo
2nd May 2008, 09:18 PM
At the Cirencester game Tim sent a message to me that he didn't need a contract, he was staying at Gloucester City.

That sounds good to me!

weston branch
2nd May 2008, 10:33 PM
I hope that is true CS. So many times i have seen this club miss out by a whisker and then at the end of the season everything go pear shaped. Tim leaving would be catastrophic to this club.

city supporter
2nd May 2008, 11:48 PM
Couldn't agree with you more WB., however I have reported what was said truthfully.

footy
2nd May 2008, 11:58 PM
been a city fan for over 18 yrs now and whilst there were some very good times it always seems to me that just recently there always seems to be some bloody bad news just before a season starts,or when a season has finished......Now its the news that tim harris might be going,he has done wonders this season and i honestly think this club needs someone like tim to take this club forward,so timmy dont go,and as for the new ground lets get things moving and bring some well deserved success to the city of Glouucester and catch up with the scum from cheltenham.....:tosser:

Taff
3rd May 2008, 12:47 AM
It is merely my opinion. Tim was a popular figure at Newport last time. This may well prove too good an opportunity to decline. I hope I am wrong.

I remember talking to a group of Newport supporters at the pre-season friendly, a few seasons ago. They said that Tim would get us out of this league. Lets hope they are proved correct.

MaxiJazz
3rd May 2008, 02:35 AM
Does any one know what is the delay is with the announcement of the new ground locationYeah we ain't got one that's what... and while maybe there is suitable land in the City,nobody's going to give it us because it is too valuable.. it's simple...end of.

We should never ever have walked away from Meadow Park without first having a replacement.Bigger disaster than the flood itself in my opinion..

city supporter
3rd May 2008, 09:25 AM
Yeah we ain't got one that's what... and while maybe there is suitable land in the City,nobody's going to give it us because it is too valuable.. it's simple...end of.

We should never ever have walked away from Meadow Park without first having a replacement.Bigger disaster than the flood itself in my opinion..

So we are back to that 'old chestnut'.....can I just ask Maxijazz where was the 100K coming from to clean up the ground to the standard required by Enviromental Health Authorities ? and secondly if we had loaned, begged or borrowed money to achieve this how were we ever going to stop a repeat of the same situation.

I totally agree that what we need right now is to have some idea of exactly where the new ground is going to be.

Neil
3rd May 2008, 09:53 AM
Well I've been told of two possible locations so I'm not going to be downbeat about the situation regarding the ground.

darrenb
3rd May 2008, 05:16 PM
Really hope that Tim stays but you could understand him wanting to go back to a much bigger club where he spent a good few years.

I would think the players who have signed up for next season would stay on. Yes they respect Tim Harris but don't underestimate how many of them have also stayed because of the fans and support they get every week.

Trev
3rd May 2008, 06:32 PM
Really hope that Tim stays but you could understand him wanting to go back to a much bigger club where he spent a good few years.

I would think the players who have signed up for next season would stay on. Yes they respect Tim Harris but don't underestimate how many of them have also stayed because of the fans and support they get every week.

I agree darren! :biggrin:

NI-Branch
3rd May 2008, 11:42 PM
Possibilities:

Dave Mehew/Adie Harris Combo could still be good.

Another one i wouldn't discount is Dougie Foxwell, brilliant player for us, did very well as Slimbridge Manager, I regard as a personal friend because I played skittles with him. He is also a friend of Tim Harris and has been doing some scouting for Tim I believe. Some may disagree with his crudentials but I believe he's the type of former player who could do well as a Manager.

Steve Talboys - Lot's of business contacts, I'm not sure whether he would have the time or interest to hve a go at Managing and he certainly would need a experienced number two like Dave Mehew.


Problem is we have been spoilt recently having Tim Harris, the first manager for ages with genuine business contacts, a personality, the managerial skill to get us out of this league considering our finances. He has been terrific for the club but he can't do it on his own, yes the supporters have usual have been fantastic both financially and in support of the team, but we need outside backers (even a consortium of a few businesses would be a terrific boost for the club).

I hope Tim stays and tries to complete what he has started which is the rejuvination of this club, tell me in the last 20 years, when have we been as positive about our clubs progression both on and off the pitch?

NI-Branch
3rd May 2008, 11:47 PM
As a City supporter the only club we should care about is our own and turning us into the big club we want to be, so Darren are Newport really a big club, I think not.

The future is bright, the future is yellow & Black or Blue & white if away.

On an aside, I see the scum survived by the skin of their teeth again. Fantastic position to be in scraping around the bottom of the league every season.

NI-Branch
4th May 2008, 01:50 AM
Spooky, a duplicate post can someone remove it.

Looking at the Newport Fans forum, if Tim Harris is reading, the fans are really not interested in having you back. They don't want you, we do.

They say they didn't like the style of football they played under Harris, I reckon ours has improved no end since Chris Burns (even though we still have some of the same players).

MaxiJazz
4th May 2008, 02:44 AM
So we are back to that 'old chestnut'.....can I just ask Maxijazz where was the 100K coming from to clean up the ground to the standard required by Enviromental Health Authorities ? and secondly if we had loaned, begged or borrowed money to achieve this how were we ever going to stop a repeat of the same situation.

I totally agree that what we need right now is to have some idea of exactly where the new ground is going to be.Au contraire CS I think it is still very early days.We have not heard yet what Severn Trent or the Government are going to do about defending that part of the City from flooding.If they do the job right there should never be a repeat of last years flooding.The £500 million regeneration,Sainsbury's and the Outlet Centre will just not put up with their business being effected by a flooding Hempsted Lane.We only ever had rhetorical figures of £70k (which is peanuts these days) being bandied about for the clean-up,nothing official so we don't know really how much the clean up will be.Expensive yes no doubt.But this figure will pale into insignificance against the massive amounts needed for a new ground and I did'nt quite catch where you said that was going to come from either.

A simple question CS,"If Meadow Park was protected from flooding would you a/.Agree it's in the best location we are ever likely to get? and that b/. £70k to £100k is a bargain for a refurbished/flood free centrally located City ground?... I rest my case your honour.

Matt
4th May 2008, 07:20 AM
A simple question CS,"If Meadow Park was protected from flooding would you a/.Agree it's in the best location we are ever likely to get? and that b/. £70k to £100k is a bargain for a refurbished/flood free centrally located City ground?... I rest my case your honour.



(a) and (b) sound true to me. It's the BIG 'if' at the start thats the problem. And maybe a 'when' as well.

Clifty
4th May 2008, 09:40 AM
The most telling point for me is that there has been no statement from the club quashing any rumours! ususally we would have been shot down by a statement by now!!

nigel
4th May 2008, 10:39 AM
Best location or only location ?

No passing trade to keep a bar operating normally.
Skittle alley and football pitches all gone.
Games postponed during the winter due to it being so wet.
One goalmouth made of sand
Gates perhaps half of what they were a few years ago

Was it as good as we like to remember it, it wasnt that long ago when we were having debates about whether it was the best location anyway and that was before the floods


As for tim, hassle of little or no money to play with, assume crazy hours for nothing, no imminent prospect of better days ahead ? all the best to him if he does go, really hope he doesnt, truly fantastic season, think we have totally over-achieved this year bearing in mind what has gone on.
Clubs never tend to comment until there is something concrete.
Tim harris once told me and Tim L there would always be a queue of people who would want to the Glos city manager

Neil
4th May 2008, 11:20 AM
A simple question CS,"If Meadow Park was protected from flooding would you a/.Agree it's in the best location we are ever likely to get? and that b/. £70k to £100k is a bargain for a refurbished/flood free centrally located City ground?... I rest my case your honour.I'd agree with your sentiments on a return to MP but only if we were allowed to rebuild it at the same level as Pressweld's and have access from Spinnaker Park.

Pablo
4th May 2008, 03:36 PM
I don't think we should be thinking of alternative people to manage the club or anything like that until we know for Official what is happening. It's no help us trying to think of people to replace Tim, when as far as we know he is still the manager of Gloucester City AFC and is the best one we have had for probably a decade!

NI-Branch
4th May 2008, 05:17 PM
Pablo I don't want to replace Tim Harris, he has been the best thing for this club in the last 20 years.

I was just throwing some names into the ring if he does decide to go.

The most telling statistic I re-iterate is the vote by the Newport Fans on their forum, only 1% last night wanted time I suspect maybe only 1% or less of City fans would not want Tim. I hope he is watching this forum and knows what we think of Tim, we genuinely have a chance of promotion with Tim next season.

Clifty
4th May 2008, 08:30 PM
i know for a FACT that Tim loos at this forum as he once rang me and asked why i had written something and put me straight on a few facts!

Ans my message to you Tim is that here at GCFC you are loved, you are a part of a team who, amongst yourself give everythong for nothing. This club needs you, and like the 200-300 fans that are hard core. we see the furure in true colours! Yellow and Black! Please do not leave us!!

Clifty
4th May 2008, 08:36 PM
by the way still no response from GCFC????:eek::eek::eek:

bobcarolgees
4th May 2008, 09:50 PM
It is a tad worrying considering I have seen Mikes name on here several times over the weekend....

MaxiJazz
4th May 2008, 09:56 PM
Best location or only location ?

No passing trade to keep a bar operating normally.
Skittle alley and football pitches all gone.
Games postponed during the winter due to it being so wet.
One goalmouth made of sand
Gates perhaps half of what they were a few years ago

Was it as good as we like to remember it, it wasnt that long ago when we were having debates about whether it was the best location anyway and that was before the floods



Look I think it's time we all realised that very soon this part of Gloucester is going to be the hottest address in the phonebook and throbbing with people going to all the new developments,retail outlets,homes and colleges.We will have a ready made fan/customer base.So long as we don't talk ourselves out of Meadow Park or allow others to talk us out of it, we are sitting on a potential goldmine.... TO THE COMMITTEE I SAY DON'T SIGN MEADOW PARK AWAY.LOOK TO ITS MID TO LONG TERM POTENTIAL WHEN THE AXIS OF THE CITY SHIFTS IN THAT DIRECTION... AND MOST OF ALL DON'T GET CONNED.

Clifty
4th May 2008, 10:48 PM
meadow park is and always will be on a flood plain and the sooner people realise this the better as meadow park is not and will not be an option. Those of us that were down there, along with Tim Harris as the water rose, and those of us that helped clear out anything of any value after the water had gone, in those awful, smelly conditions, and particularly me and Neil who waded through 3 ft of **** at the top of the ground to take photos will tell you that meadow park is dead and buried.

Yes maybe one day meadow park mey be protected but lose the niavity. This will not(if it ever does) happen for many many years, by which time the club will be dead and buried! The ONLY option was to leave and i will not accept any argument against from anyone that was quite as involved as myself, Neil, Gordon, Sally, Wilko, Tim Harris, Sandra (city supporter), Daryl Cox, and many others that were down there both evacuating and then clearing the place up after the flood!!

darrenb
5th May 2008, 12:10 AM
Couldn't agree more mate, welcome back :biggrin:

We all know we are in for some tough times but I'm sure we will come out the other side. Lets wait and see what happens with Tim and go from there.

I really do hope he stays and think we have a much better chance of success with him as manager.

nigel
5th May 2008, 08:52 AM
Mangotsfield is on the edge of the biggest new development around Bristol in ages. dont imagine their crowds are bigger now than they were 5 years ago.
Even when they are doing well they dont get much more than a couple of hundred.

New developments dont always mean that the people who live there are interested in football.

MaxiJazz
5th May 2008, 11:06 AM
Mangotsfield is on the edge of the biggest new development around Bristol in ages. dont imagine their crowds are bigger now than they were 5 years ago.
Even when they are doing well they dont get much more than a couple of hundred.

New developments dont always mean that the people who live there are interested in football.All the more reason for staying as central as we can at Meadow Park then where we get the best of both worlds.I just don't believe we will get anywhere better in town thats all....... And Clifty notwithstanding the heartbreak of seeing the disaster of July 27th at first hand.I ask again,"If the whole of that area was flood defended would'nt you agree that £70,000 to £100,000 would be cheap for a refurbished,central and flood proofed football ground right next door to the biggest development in the City since the war"...... We just cannot afford to leave.

Lee
5th May 2008, 11:52 AM
so what do we do in the meantime whilst waiting for the flood defenses that won't come because it's not economically viable anyway?

Neil
5th May 2008, 12:13 PM
Are there such things as flood defences? There's no point in waiting for someone else to build them, the only viable option would be for Keyway to use the current stadium and surrounding ex-pitches as a landfill and then build on top of that. The only chink in that armour is that only the County Council (Hempstead Tip) are allowed to fill in the flood threatened areas around there.

Clifty
5th May 2008, 02:17 PM
Clifty notwithstanding the heartbreak of seeing the disaster of July 27th at first hand.I ask again,"If the whole of that area was flood defended would'nt you agree that £70,000 to £100,000 would be cheap for a refurbished,central and flood proofed football ground right next door to the biggest development in the City since the war"...... We just cannot afford to leave.

I think you need to get real! This will not happen for decades, if ever! We do not have this much time. I know of at least one of the sites that has been earmarked for the new ground and it is a much better location than MP! However if you have the 75-100k to donate then i am sure that the club would consider it as a temporary move??

bobcarolgees
5th May 2008, 02:38 PM
I was just wondering, eight months on since this was said, when this might actially happen....?

Gloucester chairman Tom Walkinshaw has killed talk of his rugby club sharing Kingsholm with Gloucester City. The city's MP, Parmjit Dhanda, suggested that the football club become tenants of their rugby neighbours, a notion that has been backed by Gloucester City manager Tim Harris.

But Walkinshaw gave little credence to the idea. "There have been major problems where football and rugby clubs have groundshared. There are no plans in place whatsoever for them to join with the rugby club, but we will do anything we can to help with their flooding problems."

Which have been what exactly...?

MaxiJazz
5th May 2008, 05:36 PM
I think you need to get real! This will not happen for decades, if ever! We do not have this much time. I know of at least one of the sites that has been earmarked for the new ground and it is a much better location than MP! However if you have the 75-100k to donate then i am sure that the club would consider it as a temporary move??Well Sainsbury's,half a billion £ GHURC money and the Outlet Centre would seem to have a different opinion of getting real to you Clifty about that part of town... Are you absolutely positive we are not being scammed out of the best ground in our league and the one above too?,because I think we are being sold down the river (as it were):smile:... and anyway it would'nt be £75k I had to donate, it would only be £45k would'nt it?.. I seem to remember £10,000 donations from British Gas,Severn Trent was it? and a.another so I guess that's in the bank somewhere?.....

Where is the better site?? I can't think of one in town but I hope you are right.

Clifty
5th May 2008, 05:43 PM
All of that is being built on higher ground that does not flood, with new access from the peel centre, which does not flood! I should imagine that those donations were used to keep the club going last season!

MaxiJazz
5th May 2008, 06:28 PM
All of that is being built on higher ground that does not flood, with new access from the peel centre, which does not flood! I should imagine that those donations were used to keep the club going last season!
Well you know my opinion is to lobby for flood protection and stay put unlessl we are absolutely positive we do have a better location in town but I can't see us getting anywhere better myself..... With regard to the flooding two companies need to be held to account by the government : -

1/. Severn Trent/British Waterways for criminally neglecting to dredge the Lower Severn for 30 years (whilst still taking our Water Rates) and passing on the resultant cost of flood repair to the insurance industry and the public.

2/.The company that runs the Gloucester Tip need shagging for building the latest mounds behind the stadium that funnelled the flood water into the SubMeadow last year.With a little bit of forsight they could easily build Levees and protect this part of the City permanently.

Lee
5th May 2008, 08:03 PM
Maxijazz.

the new sainsburys and shopping centre sites never flood.

do you know the costs associated with flood defences. They run into millions of pounds. do you really think the environment agency is going to spend that money so we can play football at meadow park.

Neil.

raising the height of the land requires planning permission, it would never be allowed because all the water would get sent down sudmeadow road.

Conclusion.

We have to move!

bobcarolgees
5th May 2008, 08:13 PM
Just a reminder!!!....

From this..

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/sports/gallery2/v/football-stadia/gloucestercity/gloucestercityafcmeadowpark-ba14718.jpg.html

To this!..

http://www.webbaviation.co.uk/gallery/v/greatfloods/gloucester-football-ground-floods-ba18800a.jpg.html

city supporter
6th May 2008, 11:38 AM
Maxijazz.

the new sainsburys and shopping centre sites never flood.

do you know the costs associated with flood defences. They run into millions of pounds. do you really think the environment agency is going to spend that money so we can play football at meadow park.

Neil.

raising the height of the land requires planning permission, it would never be allowed because all the water would get sent down sudmeadow road.

Conclusion.

We have to move!

Someone with A BRAIN:wink:

city supporter
6th May 2008, 11:50 AM
Well you know my opinion is to lobby for flood protection and stay put unlessl we are absolutely positive we do have a better location in town but I can't see us getting anywhere better myself..... With regard to the flooding two companies need to be held to account by the government : -

1/. Severn Trent/British Waterways for criminally neglecting to dredge the Lower Severn for 30 years (whilst still taking our Water Rates) and passing on the resultant cost of flood repair to the insurance industry and the public.

2/.The company that runs the Gloucester Tip need shagging for building the latest mounds behind the stadium that funnelled the flood water into the SubMeadow last year.With a little bit of forsight they could easily build Levees and protect this part of the City permanently.

I take it that you are prepared to take on both of the above agencies in a legal court battle to achieve the ends you suggest ? No, I thought not.

I have kept out of this argument as it is totally pointless going over the same ground [so to speak].
Accept the fact that Meadow Park is dead and buried. As a club we have to MOVE ON, hopefully to a bigger and brighter future.
Meadow Park was a disaster zone right from its conception. The clubhouse for instance was totally inadequate from the point of view of generating money for the Club.
We have all visited Grounds where we have said - this is what we need.....let's hope we have drawn up a list ready for the day we are told exactly where out new home will be.

I took my last look at MP on the Fun Run Day, never to return.

MaxiJazz
7th May 2008, 08:36 PM
I take it that you are prepared to take on both of the above agencies in a legal court battle to achieve the ends you suggest ? No, I thought not.

You know my views on protecting that whole side of town from flooding not just MP. The government needs to start banging heads together.I was encouraged by Gordon Brown when he came to see the floods and bluntly told the Severn Trent bloke to get it sorted.To continue the status quo is just not acceptable in this day and age.. I cannot accept that all that money (ours) has been paid out for the Bristol Road bypass only for it to be rendered useless by flooding in Hempsted... ..It's simply not true that the only access to the new developments will be across the Peel Centre bridge.The main access from out of town will be through Hempsted.So it has just got to be sorted and quick.

However I'll agree the Tim Harris article in the Citizen tonight sounded a little more positive about a new ground "In the City" being earmarked.. so lets hope it's not pie in the sky eh?

I enjoy the debate.

Neil
7th May 2008, 10:59 PM
I enjoy the debate.Good to hear mate, I wish there was more of it!

city supporter
7th May 2008, 11:56 PM
You know my views on protecting that whole side of town from flooding not just MP. The government needs to start banging heads together.I was encouraged by Gordon Brown when he came to see the floods and bluntly told the Severn Trent bloke to get it sorted.To continue the status quo is just not acceptable in this day and age.. I cannot accept that all that money (ours) has been paid out for the Bristol Road bypass only for it to be rendered useless by flooding in Hempsted... ..It's simply not true that the only access to the new developments will be across the Peel Centre bridge.The main access from out of town will be through Hempsted.So it has just got to be sorted and quick.

However I'll agree the Tim Harris article in the Citizen tonight sounded a little more positive about a new ground "In the City" being earmarked.. so lets hope it's not pie in the sky eh?

I enjoy the debate.

Do you really believe that Mr. Brown will answer our prayers, or that Severn Trent are going to build flood defences. Personally, I think we have more chance of seeing pink elephants fly !