Dare I ask - about the Ground Situation ?

[NI-Branch]

I'm not talking about the groundshare - that seems to be sorted.

But what is happening with the inevitable return to "Meadow Park", way back last year, all we got was that discussions were at a delicate stage, things have probably progressed since then. But isn't it time that at least we hear some news on what is going on from the Club. I think the fans have been patient enough on this matter, there has been no debates on the forum on this matter.

The way things are going we will need to look for another groundshare after the two years arranged with Cheltenham Town.

[tigermatty]

My understanding is that until the environment agency pull their fingers out and give us the official all clear then there's no point applying for planning permission. Whether this situation has changed recently I'm not sure, the whole thing is largely dependant on Eammon McGurk's continued involvement with the club...am sure that as usual everything that can be done is being done though.

[NI-Branch]

I remember when Dave Phillips was talking about this subject in an interview, about his frustration at the slow pace of progress on the new ground.

It's certainly dragging, though I imagine it's quite a complex decision bearing in mind the impact it may have on local residents and businesses.

Even still something needs to be sorted out soon or we will be looking at 2013 minimum before moving back to MP.

[MaxiJazz]

I'm not playing today NIB but I will say that I'm astonished at peoples patience...ps my son's had two kids in the time since we were rained off.

[clifty]

Like I keep saying try talking to the chairman rather than bitchin about what is going on!!!

[NI-Branch]

I for one wasn't bitchin, where did that come from (oh yes, the post was by Clifty, says it all)

I'm just concerned about the lack of progress, though TigerMatty is probably right about where the hold up is. And as I said in my reply this is a complex decision needing to be made by the Environment Agency.

The club have made fantastic progress on and off the field, financially on a much better footing, on the field we have have seen some success and our fair share of excitement.

But some clubs who have had no ground have gone on to share grounds with other clubs for years and years, gone backwards due to lack of financial resources and even worse gone out of business altogether. I'm sure none of us want that.

[clifty]

Maybe "bitching" wasn't the correct word, and i am sure that being in NI is frustrating, BUT bringing this up isn't helping the situation! What do you expect to achieve from bringing this up time and again ( not just you Ni branch)! People are working their bollox off to get this sorted and I for one wouldn't blame them if they just decided why am I bothering! Let people get on with there jobs, they don't need the pressure of this being brought up all the time! There are people on here that moan about the lack of news but if they bothered to speak to the chairman (as I did yesterday) then they would get an explanation of why is happening! The club has learnt from the fiasco that was waterwells and are doing the right thing keeping everything within the club until everything is 100% concrete!

[clifty]

And yes it "is clifty so that says it all" and it isn't your fault that u are in ni and out of the loop, BUT it is easy to sit behind a computer screen and criticise, moan, and complain! You are not alone on here in doing that! That is the way of the world! There are people on here that moan about things, like the subject of this post that can quite easily talk to club officials, buy don't! They are happy to sit behind the safety of a computer screen!

[1wordwonder]

............Patience!

[NI-Branch]

I'm not moaning/complaining.........I'm damn concerned that's all.......I'm out the loop yes, but I get fed info from my dad who isn't.

Where am I moaning! I think you're not reading my posts properly.

I am aware of statements in city's match programmes, but I don't think the wording has altered significantly for a time. I understand that people are working hard behind the scenes and I am not putting them under any pressure.

But I'm not going to get involved in personnel attacks on other members of the forum in any post (unlike you do Clifty). It's easy to abuse other people's behind the comfort of your computer.

[clifty]

Well if that isn't moaning then u dread to think what you are like when you are!

You don't like me because I speak up, that's fine. Your starting this thread was mentioned by someone within the club on Saturday, and it was along the lines of sometimes you think why am I bothering!

Perhaps you should ask your old man to ask the right people the right questions if you are so concerned about the situation! I know what is happening, how much it has cost, and when a planning app is due to be submitted by speaking to the right people (who are more than willing to talk to fans openly on a one to one basis away from the press). I am saying no more on the matter! Think of me being abbusive if it helps your ego!!!

[NI-Branch]

To put this to bed - I am going to make a promise not to start any more threads on this subject. I don't and never intended to offend those who are working hard behind the scenes to resolve this situation.

But I am entitled to be concerned, there is no "if you are so concerned" Clifty. I just hope we don't go the same way as other clubs have in very similar situations.

I have no "EGO", I am not in any position to influence the situation. I like healthy debate which is surely the point of a forum, fans will disagree on various things. But I think if anyone disagrees with you Clifty you just resort to abuse, I think you have the ego.

[4EVA YELLOWS]

well 1wordwonder i would have to agree with you we do need patience!..a new ground isn't just going to just "pop-up" over night. it takes time......but NIB if you actually read clifty's replies you would say see there wasn't any abuse OR abusive language for that matter.

[clifty]

well 1wordwonder i would have to agree with you we do need patience!..a new ground isn't just going to just "pop-up" over night. it takes time......but NIB if you actually read clifty's replies you would say see there wasn't any abuse OR abusive language for that matter.

Thanks mate..... Whoever you are!

[EGG]

After talking with Nigel last Saturday he stated that he is more than happy to speak with anybody on match days regarding the ground situation (any issue with the club fullstop really). I know it's difficult for NI over the water, but as I swear you've mentioned before, your dad is there most game. More than capable of passing on information.
As for anyone who can/does make the games, why not make yourselves known and express your feeling to anyone related to the workings of the club. Don't just complain from behind a keyboard.

[4EVA YELLOWS]

gim george(ina) clifty! lol

[RedShift]

gim george(ina) clifty! lol

Shouldn't that be gymslip georgina ;)

[pylonsider]

That Clifty - always gives me grief

[clifty]

That Clifty - always gives me grief
Lol! How's it going mate? Haven't seen you for a while!

[city supporter]

I understand everyones frustration on this subject. Suffice to say that everything that could be done, is being done. Eamonn has worked tirelessly on the subject and at a cost to his own pocket. I personally do not see anyone else coming forward with ground space and the money to build a new stadium. These projects do not happen overnight.......it is costly with plans being drawn up and the EA testing which has been carried out. Once this darn election is over, lets hope that will free things up a little and the authorities can concentrate on the matter.

Keep the faith.........it will happen.

[Philip Grace]

[QUOTE=city supporter;1655]Once this darn election is over,[QUOTE]

And at the election think about who raised Gloucester City and its needs in the House of Commons.

[Simon]

Once this darn election is over,

And at the election think about who raised Gloucester City and its needs in the House of Commons.

Definitely. The local Lib Dem candidate also put us coming back to Gloucester as a main manifesto point in his leaflet, as did Parmjit....the local Tories didn't mention us whatsoever.

[clifty]

That is why I'm voting labour..... Amongst other reasons!!

[NI-Branch]

And I still will not bring this subject up again.

But thank you for your post city supporter - I think if the club on the main site had posted a similar message on the official site, this thread would not have been started by me, I can't speak for anyone else.

At last something Clifty and I do agree on - Voting for the Labour Party. They are not perfect, mistakes have been made, but they have also done alot of positive things. I could roll them off but this is not the place for that. I will have to vote DUP because I can't vote Labour here in NI. A vote for the UUP is a vote for the Conservatives - so that really is non-starter in my book.

Mr Dhanda, has been a long time supporter of our club. If we have gained recent Liberal support from Mr Hilton and alike that is great.

[tigermatty]

My mantra this election is 'actions speak louder than words':

Jeremy Hilton = 20k for the groundshare, Parmjit Dhanda = lots of appearing in the media and on tv talking about city but still no ground after 3 years...

[Girlsilver]

My mantra this election is 'actions speak louder than words':

Jeremy Hilton = 20k for the groundshare, Parmjit Dhanda = lots of appearing in the media and on tv talking about city but still no ground after 3 years...


Jeremy proposed it, as he is chair of the joint working group which is all party and has also seen Parmjit and the Conservativer candidate attend.

It was backed by the whole council, again all parties. Each group leader backed it.

[tigermatty]

Bet it was Jeremy's idea though :P

[NI-Branch]

Well said Girlsilver, Mr Dhanda was not in a position to offer 20k, the council were. Unless he made a dodgy expence claim of course lol.

As it was all party agreement we are thankful for it and at least it paid some of the fees we have to pay the scummers for using their stadium.

[Neil]

I like Parmjit and the profile that he's given the club / the club has given him but I shall be voting for Jeremy Hilton this time around simply because I can't stand to have Labour in again and the Lib Dems seem as though they may well be more than also rans this time around.

[tigermatty]

I like Parmjit and the profile that he's given the club / the club has given him but I shall be voting for Jeremy Hilton this time around simply because I can't stand to have Labour in again and the Lib Dems seem as though they may well be more than also rans this time around.

And they're yellow...city are yellow. Labour are red...

[NI-Branch]

Gloucester originally played in Red & White didn't they lol

You lot are only voting liberal cause you want to be on the winning team lol

Whatever you don't vote blue.........unless your very well off, cause they will make you even richer.

As for me (politic's is somewhat sectarian over here), Protestant's vote UUP, DUP or heaven help anyone who votes TUV, Catholic's vote SDLP or Sein Fein and those who don't know what they are vote Alliance or the Green Party. So I will probably vote DUP who in my mind will be more likely to stand up for the needs of all the people of the province.

[clifty]

Locally a lib dem vote is a wasted vote!!

[Neil]

Sad but true I feel Clifty.

[Exiled]

I like Parmjit and the profile that he's given the club / the club has given him but I shall be voting for Jeremy Hilton this time around simply because I can't stand to have Labour in again and the Lib Dems seem as though they may well be more than also rans this time around.

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Anyone I know drive a BIG ENERGY THIRSTY CAR AT MORE THAN TWENTY MILES AN HOUR (33kPH FOR THE PC BRIGRADE)?????

WELL THEY HAD BETTER LOOK OUT AS THE SNIVELING GITS IN THE LID DEN PARTY, are going to confiscate all cars and make us all use "SHANK'S PONY if they get elected!

Long way to walk to Blyth!

Cheers!

[city supporter]

Locally a lib dem vote is a wasted vote!!

Definitely !

[MaxiJazz]

I like Parmjit and the profile that he's given the club / the club has given him but I shall be voting for Jeremy Hilton this time around simply because I can't stand to have Labour in again and the Lib Dems seem as though they may well be more than also rans this time around.

Remember Neil the mess we were in was caused by the Tories and Thatcher. They destroyed the National Health and ran our hospitals,schools,roads and railways down to 3rd world standard.. I don't see that Labour have done a lot wrong and have rebuilt the Infrastructure,Police and Defence forces whilst solving Northern Ireland and winning two Gulf Wars and one against the ragheads... Tories?..never again mate.. Liberals?.. too many hippy wet weeks and sandal wallahs... Labour?...For all their faults I don't think they have done a bad job so I'm sticking with them.

[Ells]

This is not a political statement but looking at the recent issues with the ground what did Con do to help city? nothing! LIb aided in obtaining the 20K and Pardip has helped with the ground, rember no vote is a wasted vote

[RegCubit]

Remember Neil the mess we were in was caused by the Tories and Thatcher. They destroyed the National Health and ran our hospitals,schools,roads and railways down to 3rd world standard.. I don't see that Labour have done a lot wrong and have rebuilt the Infrastructure,Police and Defence forces whilst solving Northern Ireland and winning two Gulf Wars and one against the ragheads... Tories?..never again mate.. Liberals?.. too many hippy wet weeks and sandal wallahs... Labour?...For all their faults I don't think they have done a bad job so I'm sticking with them.

Nobody has solved Northern Ireland; you just don't hear much about events over there; the Government have tried to make it go away to appease the Republicans.

[tigermatty]

As far as I can see the labour government has all but bankrupted the country, led us into an illegal war in which hundreds of thousands of people have died (including our own troops who have been given rubbish equipment) and performed a disastrous and irresponsible experiment in social engineering by letting the immigration system go to pot...

....and city lost the fa trophy semi the day after labout got into power

[RedShift]

....and city lost the fa trophy semi the day after labout got into power

But we also got promoted under a Labour government

[Philip Grace]

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Anyone I know drive a BIG ENERGY THIRSTY CAR AT MORE THAN TWENTY MILES AN HOUR (33kPH FOR THE PC BRIGRADE)?????

WELL THEY HAD BETTER LOOK OUT AS THE SNIVELING GITS IN THE LID DEN PARTY, are going to confiscate all cars and make us all use "SHANK'S PONY if they get elected!

Long way to walk to Blyth!

Nice to hear from the Monster Raving Loony Party again. I thought they had died along with David Sutch. .....;)

[NI-Branch]

While I kind of know what REGCUBIT is saying, I sort of have to agree and disagree. I am currently working for the Northern Ireland Assembly for a year on a student placement.

I agree - the Northern Ireland situation is not completely solved. The assembly is not perfect and is often functional at best with the disagreements between the parties. There will still be tough times ahead.

But it has been the Labour Government's policies which has brought about a sea change in the attitudes of the vast majority of the inhabitants of Northern Ireland, there is a small minority who want to continue the "fight" on both sides (Protestant & Nationalist).

Do we really want to return to the days of daily bombings and shootings ? The TUV (Traditional Ulster Voice) will almost certainly lead us down that route - they don't want any dealings with Sein Fein, who in the end of the day have been consistent in their support of the shared future of NI.

[Dr Wart Hoover]

Locally a lib dem vote is a wasted vote!!

Not if everybody who say's they're thinking about it actually does it!

Act on your convictions - that's what you're expecting of others!

[RegCubit]

While I kind of know what REGCUBIT is saying, I sort of have to agree and disagree. I am currently working for the Northern Ireland Assembly for a year on a student placement.

I agree - the Northern Ireland situation is not completely solved. The assembly is not perfect and is often functional at best with the disagreements between the parties. There will still be tough times ahead.

But it has been the Labour Government's policies which has brought about a sea change in the attitudes of the vast majority of the inhabitants of Northern Ireland, there is a small minority who want to continue the "fight" on both sides (Protestant & Nationalist).

Do we really want to return to the days of daily bombings and shootings ? The TUV (Traditional Ulster Voice) will almost certainly lead us down that route - they don't want any dealings with Sein Fein, who in the end of the day have been consistent in their support of the shared future of NI.

Not the place to have this discussion really; but if you mean the Government has done everything to appease the Republicans; like releasing murdering scumbags back into society; removing every peice of Op Banner memoribilia from remaining military bases, deliberately ensuring the non reporting of most terrorist, oh sorry dissidents events; allowing a terrorist scumbag to hold high office in the marvellous Assembly then yes you're right; the Government has done a great job. As a National officer of the Northern Ireland Veterans Association; yes the organisation that the Governemnt would like to disappear; I am fully aware of the REAL situation in Northern Ireland, as we get updates from our members who live there.

[MaxiJazz]

As far as I can see the labour government has all but bankrupted the country, led us into an illegal war in which hundreds of thousands of people have died (including our own troops who have been given rubbish equipment) and performed a disastrous and irresponsible experiment in social engineering by letting the immigration system go to pot...

....and city lost the fa trophy semi the day after labout got into power

"Bankrupt" actually is a good description of the real cause of the world crisis... It's the World financial industry (robbers in suits) that has got the world in the cack... It's a matter of personal opinion if you think Labour did or did'nt do the right thing borrowing money to rebuild our Hospitals,Schools,Roads,Defence,The North,Wales,Ni Ireland, oh and Gloucester.Personally I think morally it was the right thing and that's why I will vote for them.. AS for the wars I believe it was the right thing to do to remove and defeat the evil dictatorship in Iraq and for us to now fight Al Quaeda, the Taliban and the Heroin warlords in Afghan' .Remember it was a Tory government in America anyway and the Liberals well god help us if they had been in power....

[BobCarolgees]

fack me this has gone a bit off topic!!!!

[magner]

fack me this has gone a bit off topic!!!!

You are right, stop talking about some prat who looks as if hes chewing sweets when he talks, if we are talking rubbish and not football, i went into the open market for 8 venison legs but they were too deer , back to football for christs sake!