Harrogate Livescores

[Neil]

http://www.livescores.co.uk/myTeamLive.jsp?account=3&match=1560

from 7.45pm

look out for the video highlights on youtube at a later date!

[KJD]

1 down after 15 minutes

[clifty]

Shite! A bloke comin out said that's the last city game he will be watching because he never paid his £20 ( him and his wife) to watch us treat a league game as a preseason friendly! He has a very good point! As another point, if Harrogate struggled to beat a team of reserves that have never played together then they deserve to go down!!

[tigermatty]

lost one nil, terrible game, maybe not such a good idea to start with a weak side when we ended up having to play rosey and symo at the end anyway, i guess at least we have learnt that plummer, Lewis and Hayes aren't good enough, unfortunately we sacrificed entertaining football in the process.

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[Simon]

Simply woeful.

[Yatesey]

http://cbg.nohomers.net/images/newgrab4.gif

Worst Episode Ever

[Neil]

I'm with Comic Book Guy, that was absolutely dire. Boris apologised!

Credit to Harrogate, we struggled to get behind them and their scorer Knox looked decent all night.

I don't think it's fair to single out individual players but the lad from our landlords didn't really live upto his billing did he?

[Lee]

look out for the video highlights on youtube at a later date!

I wouldn't bother Neil. Dire.

[tigermatty]

would have rather some of our youngsters were given a chance than play people who clearly aren't good enough, is it genuine experimentation or just doing favours for league teams?

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[Tim]

Crap as the game was, surely it's better that we experimented now, when the game means nothing, than next season, when it would mean something?

[BobCarolgees]

The amount of times the ball went high into the air was ridiculous. I spent so much of tonight aimlessly looking up at the sky I feel like Patrick f***king Moore.

Abysmal.

[city supporter]

Crap as the game was, surely it's better that we experimented now, when the game means nothing, than next season, when it would mean something?

I disagree....every game means something as far as I am concerned. Boris made his first BIG mistake this evening. If I had wanted to watch trialists play I would expect to do so preseason and not pay full entrance price, plus all the other incidentals on my way thro the turnstiles.
Play your first Team side at the start of the game, take the measure of your opposition which we have not had the chance to do until tonight. Trialists slot in during the second half when the score looks comfortable to do so.

Not a happy bunny I'm afraid. We were on a roll, now we've been rolled over !

[city supporter]

http://www.livescores.co.uk/myTeamLive.jsp?account=3&match=1560

from 7.45pm

look out for the video highlights on youtube at a later date!

Not one I will watch !

[Neil]

I can't get my PC to recognise the camcorder so I'm having to download the drivers and software onto my other one and hope it works on there. I have no luck with technology!

[DRAKEY]

The game was crap, spent the second half talking to pitcher which made it more bearable....

[tigermatty]

I disagree....every game means something as far as I am concerned. Boris made his first BIG mistake this evening. If I had wanted to watch trialists play I would expect to do so preseason and not pay full entrance price, plus all the other incidentals on my way thro the turnstiles.
Play your first Team side at the start of the game, take the measure of your opposition which we have not had the chance to do until tonight. Trialists slot in during the second half when the score looks comfortable to do so.

Not a happy bunny I'm afraid. We were on a roll, now we've been rolled over !

Couldn't agree more, and I think that message needs to be drilled into to some of the regular players too, there were definitely a few out there who looked like they'd rather be somewhere else.

[stuart]

I am finished for the season now. The game was so poor that I did not even care about the result in the end. I can see how Harrogate got relegated but we were worse. No ideas, some very poor players who seemed out od their depth even against lowly opponents and this seemed to have a negative effect on the proper players too. I honestly think a refund is in order!!

[clifty]

As I said, we have list two supporters after that shambles last night! And if I was a casual fan I would probably feel the same!

[Tim]

I feel quite strongly about this because I think we need to take a long-term view.

Yes, I was p*ssed off with the way we played last night and, of course, I wanted us to win, but the bottom line is it was a game we did not need to win. What there was to be gained instead of points was a chance to assess some new players.

Remember what happened during the first few months of the season: Boris realised some of our existing players (and some new ones) weren't up to the rigours of Conference North. They needed to be replaced. But he only found that out by playing them and seeing for himself what their deficiencies were. And those games, during which sub-standard players featured, cost us points. He, and we, found out the hard way.

Boris now has the chance to experiment again, only this time the experiments are risk-free. How much better are we going to be prepared for next season, having already rejected or selected certain players for the squad? Boris can go into the summer knowing where he needs to strengthen the squad and where he has no need. Pre-season friendlies against either too weak or too strong opposition are not good measures.

One more point: with five games in ten days, surely the players were going to be rotated anyway. No-one but Webby would be able to play in all of them, surely?

[city supporter]

In that case, why bother to attend our last few games at home if you are suggesting we use these matches as preseason games. Most fans do NOT want to travel miles to the Corinium with attendant costs to watch utter shambles being performed on the pitch. If Boris hasn,t determined by now [and I think he has] who is good enough for next season he needs to get his act together !

We not only under estimated the oppostition but also our own playing side who looked in total confusion.

As to the five games in ten days syndrome ; we are not the only side to face this situation. Surely pride in our performance and finishing as high as possible in the League is still a factor....or am I on a different planet to the rest of you.

I would hardly call the assessment of new players against a relegated side true testament to their playing abilities in this League !

[Neil]

I can understand people's ire on this matter, I can't remember the last time I left a City match feeling so disappointed but Tim is right. We need to give the fringe players a chance to prove themselves, they aren't bad but it showed how little balance the team had and we only started to look anything decent when the more established players came on at the end.

I was disappointed by the Webb / Vern combo in midfield too, that has worked before but it took me a while last night to realise that those two were together.

Moving Smudge to the left to accomodate others costs us too. He's our most dangerous player and among the best right wingers in the BSN and no matter how much promise this kid shows he had little or no effect against a relegated BSN team. Do they have ANY decent players over there?

[clifty]

I completely understand the need to try out fringe players, but all of them in one game??? Really shows how poor Harrogate are though that they only won 1.0 against that team!

[Neil]

Your point there hasn't been lost on the Harrogate fans Mr Clift ;)

[Lee]

the Cheltenham lad was woeful hence the ironic cheers from the t-side when he was brought off, he should have buried his first half chance at the back post

[tigermatty]

I think aiming to finish as far up the table as we can would be an important factor in trying to attract good players too, it's the difference between looking like a team finishing comfortably mid table or just avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth.

I understand the need to try out the fringe players but I question whether a couple of them we ever genuine contenders for a place in the team or whether we are just giving them games to keep good relations with their parent clubs?

[city supporter]

Perhaps these 'new' contenders should have been tried out at away matches rather than being inflicted on supporters at home games. This will not help increase feet thro' the turnstiles.

[city supporter]

I think aiming to finish as far up the table as we can would be an important factor in trying to attract good players too, it's the difference between looking like a team finishing comfortably mid table or just avoiding relegation by the skin of our teeth.

I understand the need to try out the fringe players but I question whether a couple of them we ever genuine contenders for a place in the team or whether we are just giving them games to keep good relations with their parent clubs?

Agree on both counts.

[Simon]

I managed to persuade one of my best friends dads to come to his first City game in 20 years last night. It's fair to say he won't be coming for another 20 years...

[clifty]

Your point there hasn't been lost on the Harrogate fans Mr Clift ;)
Why what's been said?

[leon city fan]

an absolutely diabolical performance last night. probably the worst game i av seen watching city. none of the players out there looked interested at all and as for the fringe players who are trying to earn contracts for next season , well i cant name 1 of them who deserves a contract judging on that last night.

boris had every right to play the fringe players, to have a look and see which players are good enough to still be here next season. at least we know now that none of them are.

[Neil]

Why what's been said?http://www.yabbers.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=2659&sid=93388bb0ede27d4723383bb04f7e4b01&mforum=wetherbyroad

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Horrible case of miss management last night!
But the players on the field were terrible as well.
The broom should be out at the end of the season, no excuse now!

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[clifty]

Not alot then! Lol!

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About supporters not coming back to watch, two people said to me at half time, that's us we won't be back again, though I had not seen either of them before at any match!

The club cannot afford to lose support,especially if it is self inflicted!

Just as well it is the end of the season, and they might decide to visit at our new ground next season.

Here's hoping!

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[tastyfish]

I was planning on going to the Northwich Vics game as it's only down the road. Should I bother?

I think it's a good thing to experiment with players in a proper competitive, but meaningless, match. However, if this is the case I think it's only fair to fans that the club reduce the entrance fee accordingly.

Also, do we have to tread carefully? What if Harrogate were in a relegation battle. Their relegation rivals wouldn't be too happy and the league might see a reason to punish us, although any punishment now would be harsh as 'gate were already relegated.

[Simon]

I was planning on going to the Northwich Vics game as it's only down the road. Should I bother?

I think it's a good thing to experiment with players in a proper competitive, but meaningless, match. However, if this is the case I think it's only fair to fans that the club reduce the entrance fee accordingly.



I think after the backlash from last night, Boris will probably play a near full-strength side. Plus its the fancy dress away day, it will be a MUCH better performance I suspect.

[Darran]

It was a disgrace. Considering how far Id travelled to watch the game I felt cheated. Harrogate were awful and we should really have used the game to score a few goals and increase the confidence of our strikers. I wouldnt blame anyone who was there last night if they didnt bother turning up on Monday for the Corby game because I probably wouldnt. Because it was a Thursday game Im sure as other people have mentioned we attracted a few floating supporters last night but after that Id be put off coming back for a very long time. It was the wrong game for changes.

[Nick Name]

Yes it was a rubbish performance but Boris has earned the benefit of the doubt.

I trust his management skills and if you don't make mistakes you don't learn.

Agreed poor value for money but I put it down as an investment which will deliver returns in the future.

[Dr Tiger Andy]

I've only seen Plummer play out of the three picked from last night. He was crap. I'd rather one of the U18s get a chance. Surely better than the Cheltenham kid if he was as bad as everyone is saying.

[city supporter]

I managed to persuade one of my best friends dads to come to his first City game in 20 years last night. It's fair to say he won't be coming for another 20 years...

That is the point I am trying to make.

[Neil]

Plummer looked decent at the start, he showed some of what Adie Mings used to give us but as the game wore on he went missing. That said Boris wasn't happy that Morf wasn't talking to him and you have to be fair to the new faces, I've said it before, City is an incredibly hard team to get into.

[Benji]

Whats that old saying " Nothing as fickle as a football fan ". Yes it was an awful performance and an awful game, the pitch is rockhard and bobbly and difficult to play. This is the team and manager that secured safety with 5 games to play and in their first season up. Lets give them a break. Normal service will resume on Saturday

[CityCyclist]

Whats that old saying " Nothing as fickle as a football fan ". Yes it was an awful performance and an awful game, the pitch is rockhard and bobbly and difficult to play. This is the team and manager that secured safety with 5 games to play and in their first season up. Lets give them a break. Normal service will resume on Saturday

Well said that man...I've read a dozen or more posts on here as I got up to speed, with the same word [fickle] in my mind. We go on about what great supporters we are and then can't even give this fantastic manager and team of ours one bad day at the office.

You all say in other posts about donations/financial support, so I don't think its about the entrance fee or what its cost you. Therefore, I hope its simply a natural and understandable case of pride and desire to see the club perform well every single time. And maybe, because we have so many bad times, as soon as we have a great period, the moment it starts going wrong, we worry too much that its gone for good.

In many ways the weather has affected us again, leaving so many games left outstanding in a short space of time, but better the position we find ourselves in than one where we are still battling to stay up right to the end.

Yes, the game was poor, but at least I was able to watch it without concern and keep it all in perspective. Boris hasn't suddenly become a poor manager overnight - I wonder how many others might have avoided a post-match interview. So, I will continue to wear my rose tinted glasses, I'm certainly not about to get on there backs. I couldn't believe it when I started to hear 'jears' when Smithy scuffed a shot wide when he could have passed the ball towards the end of the first half. Lets remember the bigger picture and 'snear' at those fans less fortunate than ourselves and stick behind our beloved team all the way to next Saturday.

Personally, I am vert excited about next season and don't plan to let anything spoil things between now and then. Somewhat sympathetic to the comments about fans who have come for the first time and won't come again, but talk about picking the wrong match! Why didn't they turn up when we needed the support?

Flame
Blue touch paper
Retreat!

[Darran]

I have always said as long as we were safe this season then thats all that mattered, but for the players to put in a performance like they did last night was just a disgrace. I dont think we are being fickle at all we are just telling the truth. We all paid to watch that crap last night and I at least expect some effort put in and that didnt happen.

[city supporter]

Let's hope normal service is resumed as we can't afford to lose any more supporters. We do have a great manager but let's accept the fact that he made a great mistake

[CityCyclist]

Let's hope normal service is resumed as we can't afford to lose any more supporters. We do have a great manager but let's accept the fact that he made a great mistake

We all have our opinions and I'll stick to mine thank you. You don't lose 'supporters' as a result of one game!

[clifty]

We all have our opinions and I'll stick to mine thank you. You don't lose 'supporters' as a result of one game!
Unfortunately it seems you do because the chap who spoke to me was addamant he wouldn't be wasting his hard earned cash again!!

[CityCyclist]

I guess our definition of 'supporter' differs! The odd tenner here and there isn't the step change we need (would they really have suddenly have come every week if we'd won? Doubtful, with that attitude, or you'd give it more than one game. Probably the performance was the excuse they needed). Success breeds success and we need to build our commercial side alongside that.

The people who brought the 'guests' are the supporters, the true advocates of this club, and they will always be the heart and soul of this club.

[daveangel]

Let's hope normal service is resumed as we can't afford to lose any more supporters. We do have a great manager but let's accept the fact that he made a great mistake

My first and last comment on what was a pretty dire way of spending a Thursday night. It wasn't a "great mistake" At worst a small mistake, at best a useful lesson learned for next season. I for one couldn't care less about the tenner spent. The money i have spent this season overall has been fantastic value to see us survive comfortably (which we all would have been delighted with in August), and i can't wait to see us build on it next season. Never coming again because of one game?, hardly what we need, and they would have said the same the next time we had a bad day anyway! We just lost their "loyal support" a bit early!

[stuart]

Interesting to read this lot. I am not an occasional fan and will support the Tigers as usual next season, but I cannot risk watching that standard of rubbish again this season so as the dragons might say, "I'm out"

[Jake]

Being away for the Harrogate game I was shocked to read the result in a national newspaer the following morning, but having listened to the Boris interview perhaps it wasn't so surprising.
Just hope the coach will be going to Cirencester on Monday evening and that it will be a more cheery result.