Waterwells

[Dommotyger]

Heard after last nights extraordinary (?) meeting it was a unanimous NO to letting us share ...... the search starts again maybe.........

[CompostBin]

Heard after last nights extraordinary (?) meeting it was a unanimous NO to letting us share ...... the search starts again maybe.........

Whose EGM? QWFC?

[Neil]

Yeah, Bob mentioned it earlier. 2007 seems to be the year of the selfish :(

[CompostBin]

I would love Shandy to be able to answer a few questions, mostly; if the people and/or QWFC don't want City to be at Waterwells, will they be over-ruled or is their say substantial?

The longer this goes on the more I think we should look elsewhere. I don't want City to be gatecrashers, and no offence at all intended to those that worked hard on the City/Waterwells proposal, but can we have our own ground (preferably 10000 all seater, underseat heating and large screen tv in all corners).

Secondly, will moving back to Meadow Park actually now be on the cards if all this goes pear shaped, even in the short-term?

[Neil]

I believe there were other options as well as Waterwells but their names haven't been disclosed. If Waterwells is a no maybe we'll go to the Winget and get TC all hot under the collar ;)

[karldax]

Could it be that they had news from the footballl foundation that moneys would need to be repaid if they were in favour of the sharing of the site ? If you had to repay a significant sum of money it may well influence the decision.
Would any of the local rugby grounds be suitable for sharing ? With funding available to both parties, maybe a ground could be developed to Southern Premier standard.:confused:

[Dommotyger]

Could it be that they had news from the footballl foundation that moneys would need to be repaid if they were in favour of the sharing of the site ? If you had to repay a significant sum of money it may well influence the decision.
Would any of the local rugby grounds be suitable for sharing ? With funding available to both parties, maybe a ground could be developed to Southern Premier standard.:confused:

That was one for the main reasons that and the fact that the kids would lose pitches and would not be allowed to use the one in the stadium

[tigerchef]

:)Excellent news. Now all we have to do is find us a bit of land in Gloucester to build a stadium on. It is up to the City Council now to do it properly this time, and find us a vacant place to play, and not on some facility that is allready in use as a sports ground.

[Simon]

Disappointing news, but I hope this means we can find a more central location for the Stadium.

[Joe]

I don't know if this is actually the final nail in the coffin or not. Maybe a club or City Council statement could spell it out a little more bluntly.

But if it is, my next choice would be the land between the canal and the new South-West Bypass running between Hempsted and Quedgeley. I'm informed that the land has been designated for Gloucester Rowing Club, but they only need around 20% of it. It has good access to the Bypass, and therefore motorway, and does not have many local residents to oppose the building of a stadium there. And before anyone asks, it is not on the flood plain.

[ItmustbeCity]

Disappointing news to be honest, hopefully its not the end of the matter but if it is then I trust the council to have a back up plan, where Joe has suggested could well happen

[Neil]

:)Excellent news. Now all we have to do is find us a bit of land in Gloucester to build a stadium on. It is up to the City Council now to do it properly this time, and find us a vacant place to play, and not on some facility that is allready in use as a sports ground.If it has been dismissed out of hand as has been suggested then I hope that QPC and QWFC get little in the way of aid and assistance from the City Council in the future. Their actions strike me as rather selfish in this debate and their unwillingness to share something or even look into what could be achieved should leave a black mark on them for years to come. :tosser:

[yates jr]

I don't know if this is actually the final nail in the coffin or not. Maybe a club or City Council statement could spell it out a little more bluntly.

But if it is, my next choice would be the land between the canal and the new South-West Bypass running between Hempsted and Quedgeley. I'm informed that the land has been designated for Gloucester Rowing Club, but they only need around 20% of it. It has good access to the Bypass, and therefore motorway, and does not have many local residents to oppose the building of a stadium there. And before anyone asks, it is not on the flood plain.

me and my dad have always said that :thumbsup:
theres no homes to say no and the road and traffic lights into the land is already there
Plus the council want to have car boots sales there, they could maybe use the football club car park and this will bring the profile of the club up, also the amount of traffic going down there every day! great advertising.
It'll be like walsalls ground on the M5 :D.
This needs to be though of.
and pleanty of room for expantion

Dissapointed though :cry:

[Clifty]

personally i hope that if this is the case then QWFC have a couple of good seasons then realise that they are unable to progress due to lack of facilities!

But hey Tigerchef at least you will get to continue picking up the dog **** with exiled now! no wonder you are smiling!!

[yates jr]

But hey Tigerchef at least you will get to continue picking up the dog **** with exiled now! no wonder you are smiling!!

lol :notworthy:

[Tiger Andy]

I'm informed that the land has been designated for Gloucester Rowing Club...and before anyone asks, it is not on the flood plain.

May well render riparian access for rowers a challenge then :D:D:D:D

[tigerchef]

Look. This was not a shock. All the time I have been trying to tell people what was happening. There should be NO black mark on the Club, or the QPC. I think they have made an excellent decision, and have taken all facts into consideration, and come up with a completly rational reason why not. I am sorry but the bennifits to QWFC, did not outway what we stood to losse. Again dont blame QWFC or the QPC, blame the city council for the underhand way they went about this. I still dont reckon its over. And please dont call me/my son or people who give up their time to run a football club:tosser: it totaly undermines your argument and is a sad reflection on yourself and who you represent.

[tigerchef]

Its ok got plenty of gloves to pick up the dog ****,:)

[Clifty]

At least QWFC will know that should they ever need to build a "modest" stadium they will have the oposition of the locals. After all i'm sure that you and Exiled wouldn't want the land taking away from the kiddies area etc, and god help QWFC if they were to ever want a stadium built that would mean you would have to walk around it to get to the land behind to walk poor little rover!

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Its ok got plenty of gloves to pick up the dog ****,:)

Good, because while you're at it you'll be picking up one I'll be curling off down there later.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

I'd wait for a press release before we jump to too may conclusions or try and second guess what the next stages are

[tigerchef]

FFS. Lets try and have a grown up disscusion here.

[tigerchef]

Good, because while you're at it you'll be picking up one I'll be curling off down there later.

Well that takes it to a new low. Sorry that is out of order. I will be demanding an apoligy from you when I Can get to my next home game.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

FFS. Lets try and have a grown up disscusion here.

FFS. Lets try and have some grown up spelling here.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Well that takes it to a new low. Sorry that is out of order. I will be demanding an apoligy from you when I Can get to my next home game.

Who are you Tigerchef? Depending on whether or not I like you I will 'apoligise' after you've cleaned up after me, and not before :D

[RegCubit]

I believe there were other options as well as Waterwells but their names haven't been disclosed. If Waterwells is a no maybe we'll go to the Winget and get TC all hot under the collar ;)

Told you before, you can't get planning permission for floodlights; unless of course the new friends in the Council want to bend their planning procedures.

The argument against City moving to Waterwells is the possible loss of facilities for the kids; the kids are the future of football; I've said it before I'll say it again; what we need in this City is more facilities not reducing the current ones.
Previously Shandy mentioned some other land that QWFC could have used, what happened to that?

No matter how hard you argue, there HAD to be a loss of facilities there, where were all the things you would need to run a Club like City going to go, the club house, the changing rooms, bar car parking; even if it was only one mini pitch, that would have made a big difference to QWFC who as I understand it struggle to get all their fixtures played now..

Black Bridge is my favourite next option, with a partnership with Crypt school.

Anyone thought about a partnership with a school or college?

[Neil]

FFS. Lets try and have a grown up disscusion here.Aren't you the one who said that he'd rather City went bust than got to play at Waterwells??!!!!

[Clifty]

Aren't you the one who said that he'd rather City went bust than got to play at Waterwells??!!!!

Indeed, well now he might get to see his dream come true!!!

[Clifty]

I will be demanding an apoligy from you when I Can get to my next home game.


Let us all know when that may be! I am sure that you will be given a warm welcome:D:D

[Simon]

Let us all know when that may be! I am sure that you will be given a warm welcome:D:D

Thats too far.

City fans are a minority at the moment and we need all of them we can get, even if he opposes where our new stadium should be, he's probably just as passionate as anyone else is about the club. We don't want to alienate people from the club.

This failure to have the Quedgeley site could prove to be worthwhile, the example that Joe's given would be perfect in my opinion.

[Clifty]

indeed it wouls be ideal! Along with Joe i have said that from the start. I would prefer there to waterwells any day of the week. At least it would be ours and we wouldn't end up like we are at forest green, feeling unwelcome by most.

It has good access, great for advertising, no homes nearby, and it wouls also solve the councils problem with the saturday market as they could use the carpark before the game to hold it. We could open the bar and burger bar for that too and make more money!

[Joe]

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, no matter how wrong it may be. I stuck my neck on the line at the last home match after seeing a long time City fan getting publicly abused for his views on the Waterwells site, and I got threatened with violence and was called a c**t. Now the offender, who is actually a decent bloke phoned me to apologise the day after, which I totally accepted and understood how things happen in the heat of the moment.

Simon is right, we can't threaten people or make people unwelcome at our own matches. We need every fan to come through the turnstiles we can get. Every penny counts. As much as Exiled and Tigerchef are the only people we can vent our frustration at on here, that isn't going to get us anywhere. I'd sooner take their £8.50s than none at all. And really, do you think these two individuals controlled Quedgeley Parish Council's and QWFC's decisions? Of course not. What a ridiculous thought!

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

I agree, I actually love Tigerchef and Exiled like the brothers I never had

[bobcarolgees]

Ironic really isnt it, Mustoe opens the ground for them infront of all their happy, smiley faces and then promptly enough tell us where to go when our ground is flooded. Cheers QWFC. We'll remember that when something happens to your ground and you lot are ****ed.:tosser:

And to think we gave them a pre-season as well. Last one we ever do hopefully. As for the ground itself this news will please all those that use it through the week. I.e the guy with the 2 german shepherds, the woman with the yorkshire terrier of course half the mole population of Gloucester. A fantastic victory for them, Bill Oddie and of course the blue rinse brigade at the parish who no doubt will be feeling very happy with themselves when they tune into diagnosis murder tomorrow.

As for TC saying this is great news, yes great in the sense that kids wont have just 2 pitches to play on instead of 5. In terms of our (and yours apparently) football club this is terrible news. However I get the feeling that your profess to being a city fan is something of tongue in cheek nowadays. At least Exiled actually bothers to turn up for games.

Seen as this has gone tits up, I expect TC and Exiled to be as vocal as there were with this one, writing in letters to the citizen with alternate places where we can go and the reasons why.........

[tigerchef]

I love you to shandy.:D

O.K. I will of course write to the local Rag. I will give several opptions as well. I of course do not want to see City go to the wall, that was a bad comment that i now wish i had never said. I have said right from the start that we need more grounds in Gloucester. I think the site of the new rowing club would be fantastic, with some sort of stand doubling up as a boat store. And also using the car park for the jumble sale lot on a sunday morning would be an excellent idea. The facility would get more use and the whole site would be used a lot more. But we should remember that this is earmarked for the rowing club, so its up to them if we share with them. Is the old B&Q site big enough? What about the old land registry area on the golden valley? or the vacant space at walls? Plenty of land behind the new B&Q as well. Or just build on top of the tip in hepstead. Isnt it going to be full soon, and its plenty high enough. This is me thinking for a couple of minutes here.

oh yeah thanks for questioning my passion for the club. It is not tounge in cheak, and I do love it. Right from the start when i used to sell "Golden Bond" from 1988-1990. and watched that fantastic city team. I would love to go more offten, but in my job i dont exactly decide what im doing. Allways remember phoning home from Bosnia to find the City-Sailsbury score. I was F****** gutted that night. And come on if i could spell, that would mean that secondry moderns worked:)

[Mike]

A very brief statement below. I know its not much, but rest assured that those who need to be engaged are, and are working hard:

Waterwells (http://www.gloucestercityafc.com/)

[MaxiJazz]

indeed it wouls be ideal! Along with Joe i have said that from the start. I would prefer there to waterwells any day of the week. Yes it would, but did'nt I read in The Citizen that the Barn Owl lot from Brockworth are going there (yes really)?.... sarcasm apart I'm beginning to get very worried about the clubs future... I personally would'nt have wanted to see City playing in Quedgers anyway,it's just too far out of town.. If that is the best the City Council can get us (and even then there is a row) then we are really in the mire and we should rapidly start thinking about how to get Meadow Park back up and running.WE AIN'T GOING TO GET ANYWHERE BETTER as I keep saying... Spend the same money on flood defences at MP before we go down and under I say.

[NI-Branch]

Your apology of your statement about "the club going to the wall" is very hollow, I would have had more respect for you and your opinions if you had apologised at the time you made the comment or before the decision went the way you wanted. It shows you for what you are....I don't know any football fan of any team who would make that kind of statement anyway, therefore I don't think you give a t*#s about us and are not a GCFC fan.

There must be no desire to progress up the leagues at QWFC, maybe they are just happy providing football for kids in the area, I'm not knocking that. But when they decide we want to advance up the leagues, I think it will be a bit rich looking planning permission for a modest stadium on the site after turning this proposal down.

The search continues and let's try to stay positive guys.

[tigerchef]

Like i said sorry. But one thing is for sure, just because i have had personal attacks made about me on this and other threads, the abuse i have recieved will not put me off, supporting City. The mindless comment made by myself, and others will maybe serve us well and teach us not to just type the first thing that came into our minds. Yes it is time to look ahead to a sollution to this problem, and I am sure that with all of our combined backing, we can end up with a ground that we can all be proud of.

[CompostBin]

It was something said in the heat of the moment TigerChef, regrettable by you I'm sure and I think any genuine apology should be accepted, that's my opinion anyhow.

Regarding the QWFC news (still no statement from them) I wake up slightly pessimistic about the situation. I'm not 'in the know' so speak purely from what I read on forums and in the news and try and peice it together.

I think City are unimportant in this great city, I hate thinking that but think it's the truth for 95% (higher?) of residents/councillors/pen-pushers etc and so I don't think we'll get anything close to ideal or anything of our own, we're simply a sporting Club existing for a few members. We don't bring any media attention to the city, nor do we have hundreds of visitors spending their cash in the City for home games.... simply put, we're a very small group of people with a particular interest that doesn't appeal to the vast majority of the City.

The more I think about this, the more I think any move and investment will be purely from the private pockets of the Board and supporters but even then we're looking for substantial amounts of money just to acquire land, let alone develop a stadium there.

Sorry for the rant, none of it based on facts, just opinion of a depressed mind this morning.

Driving past the Coney Hill RFC this morning, a Club that does well for itself (well, they're always parking on the main road) may welcome the investment we're talking about?

[Dommotyger]

Blackbridge would be ideal! Loads of room, no houses near and I think Widden or Old Crpytians have floodlights so we may get permission just access although there is a side road from Stroud Rd maybe that could be used!

[Clifty]

Driving past the Coney Hill RFC this morning, a Club that does well for itself (well, they're always parking on the main road) may welcome the investment we're talking about?

I have heard that this may be the case! They are a club with ambition and from what i hear they would welcome the possibility of better facilities. This is purely word of mouth though.

[Graham]

|If they are ambitous a JV with CHRC where they can play alternate weeks would be good and they can share the facilities

[Neil]

Surely having a football team and rugby team sharing facilities would be more hassle than it's worth??

[Woody]

Surely having a football team and rugby team sharing facilities would be more hassle than it's worth??

Neil, your not being negative now are you? ;)

[RegCubit]

Blackbridge would be ideal! Loads of room, no houses near and I think Widden or Old Crpytians have floodlights so we may get permission just access although there is a side road from Stroud Rd maybe that could be used!

Thats why I suggested a possible partnership with the Crypt School, acces then from Podsmead Road, via the school, up to the new stadium, with perhaps some improved athletics facilities alongside the football stadium with shared changing facilities and clubhouse.
Terry Haines would be a good man to get on side if this was a possible solution.

[Neil]

No, no and no. If theres to be an athletics track it won't be built "alongside" it, it'll be built around the pitch. Don't even suggest that TC, it's us who will have to watch from behind and athletics track, not you!

[Clifty]

No, no and no. If theres to be an athletics track it won't be build "alongside" it. Don't even suggest that TC, it's us who will have to watch from behind and athletics track, not you!

Too right. There is only one thing that would ever make me consider not watching city anymore and that would be having to watch it from the other side of a running track! It doesn't work!!

[bobcarolgees]

Coney Hill RFC? Do you honestly think they'd want football being played there? If QWFC arent even gonna give us a slice of their pie do you think rugby clubs will???? No chance!!!

We need our own ground, unfortunatley that is gonna cost a lot of money, money we havent got!!! Its also going to take a lot of time, time we have'nt got.:brickwall:

I'd love to still be in the city but lets be honest it wont happen-where can we go?! The railway triangle is a no goer and will still probably be looking exactly the same way in ten years time, Gloucester RFC made their feelings shown about a groundshare (thanks for that "fundraiser" by the way that was going to happen.....). The option of where the rowing club is the best left I reckon, but there will always be opposition even if there isnt houses or the like there (see waterwells). But as much as I hate to say it, I reckon the council will **** us over again, give us about 50 grand to spruce meadow park up (well clear up) and tell us to start again with the promise of better flood defences (once the money comes from the government-so a while then).

For the meantime and the forseeable future I can see us being stuck at FGR (unless they do the unbelievable and get promoted this year and will probably tell us where to go as well..). Either way its bad, fans dont like going to fgr and we even have a situation where some fans are boycotting home games and just going away, whilst if they dont want us there again its begging the likes of Cirencester, Worcester, Newport and Yate I guess. Which means more travel and the more chance of all of them telling us to bugger off!!!

[Neil]

The railway triangle is a no goer and will still probably be looking exactly the same way in ten years time!!!You're not wrong there Bob :(

[yates jr]

i think the land on the new bypass by netheridge will still be great its got so many advantages! :thumbsup:

[CompostBin]

Surely having a football team and rugby team sharing facilities would be more hassle than it's worth??

I agree, and with Bobs post as well but I'm trying to be realistic too.

Land is far too valuable to give to a private members club which GCAFC is effectively, especially the land required for a stadium and associatied facilities so I doubt we'll ever be given raw land to develop as we like, we're simply not important enough in our own city.

So, as seems to be the route that GCAFC/GCC are taking is for a sharing of facilities, in which case we must look to those who also wish to have development for their own gain. QWFC obviously didn't want what was on offer but others may and Coney Hill RFC appear to be fairly progressive and may welcome a proper stadium.

It's not ideal, but let's be frank ... does anyone seriously believe that an acre or so of land will be given to us to do as we wish?

The floods happened nearly a third of a year ago and look where we are ... it's a slow process just to get identification and a rejection so we're looking at years to get accepted somewhere and with dwindling gates and poor performances on the field I fear for the immediate future of this Club.

[Woody]

Coney Hill play in Black and Yellow too. :thumbsup:

[city supporter]

[QUOTE=RegCubit;13138]Told you before, you can't get planning permission for floodlights; unless of course the new friends in the Council want to bend their planning procedures.

The argument against City moving to Waterwells is the possible loss of facilities for the kids; the kids are the future of football; I've said it before I'll say it again; what we need in this City is more facilities not reducing the current ones. {quote RegCubit}

I am devastated that this plan has been rejected. What you don't seem to comprehend TC., there is a SERIOUS chance that the 'kids' you refer to as being the future of football in the City, will NOT ACTUALLY HAVE A LEAGUE FOOTBALL CLUB to play in ! That's fact NOT fiction.

[city supporter]

Thats why I suggested a possible partnership with the Crypt School, acces then from Podsmead Road, via the school, up to the new stadium, with perhaps some improved athletics facilities alongside the football stadium with shared changing facilities and clubhouse.
Terry Haines would be a good man to get on side if this was a possible solution.

Surely, there must be a dwelling within a 20 mile radius that will suffer from stadium light blindness !:rolleyes:

Sorry, guy's but I'm really fed up to the back teeth !

[Graham]

Is Waterwells now offically dead? a lot of projects get rejected at the first stage, what is the official line from the council and the club?

Wait until we get an official line before we dismiss it completely, i think that you can be assured that although the offical line is very quiet there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes. Perhaps a statement from GCC or the club may clarify the situation!

[city supporter]

Is Waterwells now offically dead? a lot of projects get rejected at the first stage, what is the official line from the council and the club?

Wait until we get an official line before we dismiss it completely, i think that you can be assured that although the offical line is very quiet there is a lot of work going on behind the scenes. Perhaps a statement from GCC or the club may clarify the situation!

There has been no Official Statement from either the Club or the Council. What I am concerned over is the time taken so far and we still do not have anything concrete to plan for the future.

[CompostBin]

"Quedgeley Wanderers Football Club have recently been approached regarding the possibility of the relocation of Gloucester City Football Club to a potential new stadium to be built on the site of Waterwells Sports Centre at Quedgeley.

Initial discussions with related parties have highlighted potential advantages and disadvantages to Quedgeley Wanderers Football Club and the club’s committee decided to present all the known detail to its membership to decide whether the club should continue discussions or to oppose the potential scheme.

Following the meeting, which was held on Sunday 11th November, a vote of the attending membership of Quedgeley Wanderers Football Club was taken and there was unanimous agreement that the club’s membership does not support the possibility of the relocation of the Gloucester City football stadium to this site

Quedgeley Wanderers Football Club is sympathetic to the problems caused to Gloucester City Football Club by the July floods and shares the desire for The Tigers to find a new home, but is unanimous in its view that Waterwells is not the right location.



Joe Alps
Chairman"

That's the QWFC Press Release, dated 12th November .. not sure if it's been posted yet.

[Neil]

Funnily enough I was just on their site reading that!

All I can say on the matter for them is that if in the future they go cap in hand looking for more funds or looking for assitance from the local authority that they're turned down flat.

There's also talk of more facilities being opened up around the Kingsway area. Hopefully they'll be denied access to using these too.

I can't see past anything other them being selfish. They've been given this massive plot of land, easily big enough to cater for their teams and us with a bit of thought yet they're simply unwillinging to give up the slightest piece of land. As for the final paragraph, they obviously don't know how to spell "F**k you Jack, we're alright" cos thats what it's meant to say.

As I said to the Citizen yesterday, people seem to forget that this club is the City's football club and even Quedgeley is part of the City of Gloucester. The support that we get from our own citizen's is woeful and thats been backed up by the people of Quedgeley in this case. Support can be more than coming to the game, support can include helping us out and even helping themselves out but it seems that they'd rather keep their bare field.

Still, at least it's there for the people of Quedgeley to call their open space, even if they have to get in their cars to drive down to it and let the dog off the lead so that it can sh1t all over the penalty spot. I shouldn't try any diving headers boys ;)

[Lawn Fan]

Back page of paper today says it now no go.

I can’t help feeling sorry for you over this fiasco. But why the hell did the council not ask all the parties first before they announced this idea to the world ? Bloody stupid way to run things I would say.

[bobcarolgees]

Yeah but the people of Quedgeley dont use it!!! Go down there during the week and the place will be empty. Its just a case of sod you lot this is ours. And if they try to use Kingsway then as a resident I will not be allowing that. My house will probably be within a mile of it. Think of the noise and the traffic....

Kingsway is right
Kingsway shall fight
No surrender!

Anyway...I hope we manage to turn Uxbridge over in a couple of weeks and then get a plum draw at the lawn, such as Oxford. Then all these glory hunters will emerge from under their stones professing to love the club (TC has the ticket office number on speed dial) but realise they have to drive a 30+ mile round trip to watch it and then perhaps people may actually wake up and realise what is happening to the club.

[CompostBin]

Gloucester City must go back to the drawing board in their search for a new stadium.In a huge blow to the flood-stricken club, plans to relocate to Waterwells Sports Centre have been thrown out by current occupiers Quedgeley Wanderers.

The 14-acre site is owned by Gloucester City Council, who insist they will not go ahead with the scheme without agreement from all parties.

It leaves the Tigers, flooded out of Meadow Park in July, no closer to finding a permanent new home.



Neil Phelps, editor of the Tiger Roar fans' website, said: "This strikes me as a very short sighted and selfish decision by certain people down at Quedgeley.

"I understand Waterwells is a brand new facility and Quedgeley Wanderers are anxious not to lose out, but at the end of the day it's not their land.

"People seem to be forgetting that Quedgeley is part of Gloucester and we represent the whole city - it's their club they're hurting."

Wanderers chairman Joe Alps said: "Quedgeley Wanderers are sympathetic to the problems caused to Gloucester City by the July floods, and shares the desire for the Tigers to find a new home, but is unanimous in its view that Waterwells is not the right location."

Last summer's floods destroyed Meadow Park and forced City to play this season's home fixtures at Forest Green Rovers.

The Southern League club had hoped to enclose one of two full-size pitches at Waterwells into a new stadium complex, comprising around 25 per cent of the site.

This would enable a working partnership to be created between the two clubs, with both having the use of the stadium.

City council leader Paul James said: "I'm afraid it is back to the drawing board for Gloucester City and I'm disappointed for them.

"But we always said Waterwells would only go ahead with full consent and I entirely respect the decision of Quedgeley Wanderers.

"To be fair to them, they have approached this proposal in a very considered manner and taken time to come to their decision."

Coun James said alternative sites would now be revisited, thought to include Black Bridge in Podsmead and Winget sports ground in Tuffley Avenue.

The Railway Triangle in the city centre, a popular choice among Tigers fans, looks to be a non-starter after plans for 400 eco-homes and medical-based science park received an enthusiastic response by the council.

A Gloucester City spokesman said: "The club is not in a position to make any formal statement at the moment, beyond the fact that we continue to work with the council to identify a way forward."

From the Citizen, including quotes from GCC.

[bobcarolgees]

City council leader Paul James said: "I'm afraid it is back to the drawing board for Gloucester City and I'm disappointed for them"

Says it all really. Only ever see the guy in the citizen with either a suit or his peanut hugging shirt on.

[Graham]

Now councilors, get of your backside and do something that you are employed to do and support the City of Gloucester Football Club, you will be at all the future big City games as you have been in the past with all of the hangers on saying how you have always supported the football club now is your chance to prove it. If City were riding high in the public eye you would have the decision sorted by now!

Surely the council would have a plan “B” or is it like everything that this council does, try something and if that does not work go back to square one that is bad planning.
I like his quote that he is sorry for “THEM” so does this mean that Mr. James is a normal Politian and walking away from the situation. Come out Mr. James and make more of a quote than that!

How long does it take to find a plot of land, while I know that the council have no obligation to support the club there is so much land that is not being used and that the council. Getting revenue from renting land to GCFC this has got to be a moral obligation to the remaining rate payers!

[Neil]

I'm not going to bite the hand that feeds us and I'm hopeful you'll join me in not using the COF to slam the council or councillors, they have been magnificent and hopefully will continue to do so in what has become our hour of need.

As for Paul James and his rugby shirt, sure he shows it off but then it's the thing to do in Gloucester isn't it!

Also I had a quick look at the Citizen while I was out and didn't see my quote on there, certainly expresses my opinion doesn't it!!!

It'll be interesting to see what happens now if Winget is officially offered as an option to us. Will TC see a benefit or will he take the "F**k you Jack" approach too?

[Woody]

It'll be interesting to see what happens now if Winget is officially offered as an option to us. Will TC see a benefit or will he take the "F**k you Jack" approach too?

I think we all know the answer to that one already don't we? ;)

[Graham]

Neil,

I agree maybe it was a wrong to front frustrations on the COF but with my experience with the council and the bad planning, it costs us as tax payers a fortune.

Enough said about the council, lets see if they can redeem themselves!

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Sorry Graham, I thought it was QWFC who had vetoed this plan, the City Council were definitely behind it, but I suppose they're the usual scapegoat. Truth is that they QWFC were the only ones who could have stopped this, I had more faith in their long term vision than this.

[Clifty]

well i'm sure that Bob will be keeping an eye any future proposals that QWFC may try to put through planning so that we can get all of our friends and family to reject it and show them a nice brick wall!!!

[RegCubit]

I think we all know the answer to that one already don't we? ;)

Correct, already declared that what a month ago in the other thread. Plus as I've said how many times, you can't get planning permission for bloody floodlights, we've asked and been told no.

You've all moaned about QWFC being selfish, but aren't you all just being the same. Despite all your refusals to accept the truth facilities would have been lost at Waterwells, you saw the aerial shot that I think Neil posted, where were all the facilities GCAFC would need going to go, on stilts over the pitch. The photo clearly showed the four pitches there marked out, with very little other space left. Where was the car parking, where was the changing facilites going to go, where was the bar going to go. The truth is, something had to go, and it was probably going to be one of the mini pitches for the kids, which the club don't have enough of now; or would you all be quite happy to have the under 10's, 12's and under 14's boys and girls playing on your nice new pitch, as well as the QWFC first team. I don't think so, there were enough moans on the old forum when the Ladies first team started playing at MP, that the pitch was being over used.

Cast your memories back to when City bought the Fielding and Platt sports fields, what happened, two cricket pitches were lost to the Community.

Spookily Wingets has two cricket pitches as well.

Had my say, not going to bother responding to the abuse I am about to get.

[bobcarolgees]

Im now officially a Kingswayalite. I dont want that Quedgeley scum on my front lawn :thumbsup:

[Graham]

Shandy appology accepted i will put that in the diary!!

[Neil]

Cast your memories back to when City bought the Fielding and Platt sports fields, what happened, two cricket pitches were lost to the Community.

Spookily Wingets has two cricket pitches as well.

Had my say, not going to bother responding to the abuse I am about to get.There was still a cricket pitch down there, used too after Meadow Park was built. And I thought there was just the one cricket pitch at the Winget, on the higher level where the festival used to be held.

And as for Waterwells and car parking there would've been no need to tarmac over the pitched because off street parking would've been used. I know you don't support City any more TC but if you were to and you went to an away game or two you might be surprised to see that the likes of Cossham Street and Yate Town aren't ajoined by NCP car parks or tarmaced surfaces laid by a bunch of Irish fellows who had it "left over from a job" ;)

I don't suggest you came here to be abused but if you have a position of any worthwhile capacity then I'd like to think you'll contact the authorities and not object to Winget as it has been suggested but support the Blackbridge proposal (without mentioning Terry Haines or athletics bloody tracks) :brickwall:

[RegCubit]

I would definitely support the Blackbridge proposal, my suggestion about an ADJOINING athletics track, would make a more community based proposal. Remember a Football Foundation grant is only for facilities where football is played 80% of the time, so the Athletics Club could help with funding for things like a joint changing facility with a clubhouse, two clubs income there. They could concentrate on funding for the Athletics track which wouldn't affect the football stadium, think of it like Keith Gardiners Ice Rink proposal if you remember it, he had a two sided stand in mind.
There would then also be two clubs to lobby whoever for the facilities, the Blackbridge facilities are rubbish for our local athletes. It must be worth thinking about so long as it is not part of the football stadium.

[Clifty]

isn't blackbridge too small to have a stadium with "ADJOINING" athletics track?

[Neil]

Any mention of athletics will lead to it being around the pitch, regardless of how big the capitals letters are when you type ADJOINING!

[Clifty]

and unfortunately i think that would lose us more fans than us going to FGR if that were to happen! i would be one of them. It completely takes the enjoyment out of being a supporter. Corby, Grantham, Newport, none of them can get an atmosphere and you need binoculars to stand behind the goals!!

[RegCubit]

isn't blackbridge too small to have a stadium with "ADJOINING" athletics track?

Not sure of the size of the land the Council own, but there are two football pitches where the Ladies used to play, they have the current changing facilities, then the athletics track is in another separate bit of land next "door", but they use the same changing facilities. On the football side, the land goes right up to the ash path, backing onto the Widden Old Boys/Old Cryptians site. I would have thought the whole plot was much bigger than Waterwells.

[Clifty]

ah right, i assumed that it was just the part where the running track is!

[Darran]

There is a field by the awful athletics track which from memory (its been a while is I used it) would easily be big enough to house a stadium. To be honest they may as well just get rid of the athletics track and build one somewhere else because it can only be used for training.

[bobcarolgees]

I noticed this on the skyscraper city forum...

Finally one bit of news I have come accross...the owners of Centre Severn, a company called Perevil Securities want to develop the site further. The site is currently home to a large Virgin Health and Fitness, Tenpin bowling outlet, Pub/restaurant and a large Premier Travel Inn.

The owners of the site have put in an application to erect signs on the site encouraging development of 350,000 sq-ft mixed use on 18 acres. The only area I can think is that they own some of the land fenced off and currently part of the BirdsEye Factory Complex. This is a large possible development that could attract some large names

:confused:

[city supporter]

Sorry Graham, I thought it was QWFC who had vetoed this plan, the City Council were definitely behind it, but I suppose they're the usual scapegoat. Truth is that they QWFC were the only ones who could have stopped this, I had more faith in their long term vision than this.

WHAT VISION....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[Neil]

I noticed this on the skyscraper city forum...

Finally one bit of news I have come accross...the owners of Centre Severn, a company called Perevil Securities want to develop the site further. The site is currently home to a large Virgin Health and Fitness, Tenpin bowling outlet, Pub/restaurant and a large Premier Travel Inn.

The owners of the site have put in an application to erect signs on the site encouraging development of 350,000 sq-ft mixed use on 18 acres. The only area I can think is that they own some of the land fenced off and currently part of the BirdsEye Factory Complex. This is a large possible development that could attract some large names

:confused:So as not to disappoint I was up on Chosen Hill yesterday taking photos of the area behind BEW behind the pub and VA ;)

What struck me as odd too was that there were signs of work on the "hill" side of the Barnwood Link Road too....

[Neil]

http://www.cityladies.co.uk/spf/rear_bew.jpg

[Dommotyger]

I noticed this on the skyscraper city forum...

Finally one bit of news I have come accross...the owners of Centre Severn, a company called Perevil Securities want to develop the site further. The site is currently home to a large Virgin Health and Fitness, Tenpin bowling outlet, Pub/restaurant and a large Premier Travel Inn.

The owners of the site have put in an application to erect signs on the site encouraging development of 350,000 sq-ft mixed use on 18 acres. The only area I can think is that they own some of the land fenced off and currently part of the BirdsEye Factory Complex. This is a large possible development that could attract some large names

:confused:

Let's hope Mr M owns it all! and that Neil was taking photos for him!

[tigerchef]

WHAT VISION....:rolleyes::rolleyes:

Vision indeed. I am now allowed to confirm that the plan was to put a 500 seat stand on one of the kids pitches, use one of the big pitches as a football ground, one of the big pitches for astroturf, and that would leave one small kids pitches for the use for QWFC. Now yes kids could play on the astroturf, but not many football clubs play games on this surface in this country do they? That were the reasons why mysef and others rejected the idea. Oh yes carparking, NONE of the surrounding companies were going to let people park there. So you need a carpark.

Now it is up to our council leaders to get off their arse's, and find somewhere pretty damn quick. And just a little hint for them, i suggest they do there homework properly this time.

Just remember that "THEY WORK FOR US" we pay their wages. Start earning them.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

Vision indeed. I am now allowed to confirm that the plan was to put a 500 seat stand on one of the kids pitches, use one of the big pitches as a football ground, one of the big pitches for astroturf, and that would leave one small kids pitches for the use for QWFC. Now yes kids could play on the astroturf, but not many football clubs play games on this surface in this country do they? That were the reasons why mysef and others rejected the idea. Oh yes carparking, NONE of the surrounding companies were going to let people park there. So you need a carpark.

Now it is up to our council leaders to get off their arse's, and find somewhere pretty damn quick. And just a little hint for them, i suggest they do there homework properly this time.

Just remember that "THEY WORK FOR US" we pay their wages. Start earning them.

Tigerchef - was there any mention that land at Kingsway could have been used to replace any of the pitches lost at Waterwells? Did anyone raise the fact that the Park and Ride would have more than catered for the parking needs? Did anyone else mention that this idea was only progressed as far as this because initial meetings with QWFC were very positive and the proposal was welcomed subject to further discussions? Please balance your emotive comments with a few facts.

And as for employing the council, your community tax contribution is less than a pound a day - next time you see me (whoever you are) feel free to come across and let me repay you for that day.

[Neil]

Are you trying to surprise us by telling us that there would be a 500 seater stand? And why would it be placed on an adjacent pitch when it would actually be built as close as possible to the main pitch. You know, at probably 50 seats long and 10 deep it wouldn't have taken up all that much room you know. I think someone is just scaremongering and people have fallen for it.

[CompostBin]

Whoever is to blame, whatever reasons were decided about rejecting the plans by whoever, it's probably time to draw a line in the sand and move on.

I'd rather not waste anymore time discussing something that isn't going to happen and try and concentrate on something that is :)

[Woody]

And as for employing the council, your community tax contribution is less than a pound a day - next time you see me (whoever you are) feel free to come across and let me repay you for that day.

Your obviously overworked and underpaid then Shandy. ;)

[city supporter]

Vision indeed. I am now allowed to confirm that the plan was to put a 500 seat stand on one of the kids pitches, use one of the big pitches as a football ground, one of the big pitches for astroturf, and that would leave one small kids pitches for the use for QWFC. Now yes kids could play on the astroturf, but not many football clubs play games on this surface in this country do they? That were the reasons why mysef and others rejected the idea. Oh yes carparking, NONE of the surrounding companies were going to let people park there. So you need a carpark.

Now it is up to our council leaders to get off their arse's, and find somewhere pretty damn quick. And just a little hint for them, i suggest they do there homework properly this time.

Just remember that "THEY WORK FOR US" we pay their wages. Start earning them.

Like I have said previously, I am really fed up with the whole scenario now that it has been rejected. But lets concentrate on just a few items mentioned above.


1. Park and ride could have solved any initial parking problems.
2. Did GCAFC actually agree to a 500 seater stand ? After all we would have
to generate money for the building of same.

3. If at initially consultation stages QWFC didnot object to the plan,
what changed their minds ?

I think the Council did work speedily, it's just that a minority of people have done a lot of scaremongering and I feel they should be the ones to GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
Better hurry up though, before we see the total demise of the Tigers, after all in the wild their numbers are decreasing, as will those who pull on a striped shirt.:mad::mad:

[Neil]

Is it time to look at the large fields at Blackbridge?

[city supporter]

Is it time to look at the large fields at Blackbridge?

Don't be a silly boy Neil, Quedgeley Parish Council could hear Drakey's DRUM from there.:rolleyes:

[CompostBin]

Like I have said previously, I am really fed up with the whole scenario now that it has been rejected. But lets concentrate on just a few items mentioned above.


1. Park and ride could have solved any initial parking problems.
2. Did GCAFC actually agree to a 500 seater stand ? After all we would have
to generate money for the building of same.

3. If at initially consultation stages QWFC didnot object to the plan,
what changed their minds ?

I think the Council did work speedily, it's just that a minority of people have done a lot of scaremongering and I feel they should be the ones to GO LOOK FOR ANOTHER PIECE OF LAND.
Better hurry up though, before we see the total demise of the Tigers, after all in the wild their numbers are decreasing, as will those who pull on a striped shirt.:mad::mad:

Regarding Point 3, it was an EGM therefore those on the Board may have liked the idea but the members/shareholders have voted against it, I assume.

[city supporter]

Regarding Point 3, it was an EGM therefore those on the Board may have liked the idea but the members/shareholders have voted against it, I assume.

The ones with small minds and little vision do you mean ?:rolleyes:

Sorry to sound a bit caustic, but I have spent two days hauling myself around local business parks, banks, building societies, etc etc, trying to promote the Fun Run this Club is trying damn hard to organise keeping ourselves in the eyes of the media.
Little wonder I have not much time for various bodies who keep attaching a ball and chain to the Club !

[CompostBin]

I try to look at it objectively.

If Meadow Park was still available and someone higher in the pyramid with better support and better everything decided they wanted to make Meadow Park their new home, develop it to their higher standards and bring hundreds or thousands of their fans to 'our shared ground' then I think we'd react in a similar fashion, IMHO.

The decision has been made, it's quite small minded looking from our angle but that's life. In 5 years time we'll have forgotten about QWFC and they may regret not having better facilities. Time to move on.

[Neil]

The same thing might've been said about sharing at the Triangle with the rugby club. I was all for that but then there were folks who were against it.

[city supporter]

Agree re moving on, but who in their right minds would not want to progress forwards.
If it had been MP., considering the mess we were in, I would have welcomed them with open arms !

[CompostBin]

The same thing might've been said about sharing at the Triangle with the rugby club. I was all for that but then there were folks who were against it.

I think all of us, no matter who we support, want our own stadium. It's in the nature of sport supporters. However realistic that is for a football club with 300 supporters in a predominantly rugby town remains to be seen.

City are just not popular, we're the Y-Fronts amongst the Christmas presents .. smile awkwardly and hope they go away, disappointing as that may sound.

[city supporter]

Okay, I'll just go and pack up then !

[Neil]

OK then, we'll be the Y-Fronts and Cheltenham can be the knickers, cos their for c**ts :D

[Dommotyger]

Dont what to say as most has been said already by all supporters and non supporters however is this the most viewed and replied thread ever apart from the Donation and Sponsorship one!

[Clifty]

The decision has been made, it's quite small minded looking from our angle but that's life. In 5 years time we'll have forgotten about QWFC and they may regret not having better facilities. Time to move on.

I wouldn't say that this will be forgotten. Lets say put to the back of people's minds, until QWFC have to add facilities, and try and get planning permission. Then it will be remembered i'm sure!

[Graham]

"Okay, I'll just go and pack up then" City Supporter do not give up, yes we have been nocked back but also have been a number of clubs, it is down to the council to identify some land, there is enough of it around doing nothing, they just have to get of their fat but and do some work for a change. I know that is difficult but all plans should have a back up. Mine would be "Blackbridge" Coney Hill or Winget although my favourate would be Winget but we will have all of those NIMBY's complaining. This is the time for the council to be strong!

[Joe]

is this the most viewed and replied thread ever apart from the Donation and Sponsorship one!

Probably, and where are we? Square one, that's where.

But we can moan and whinge at anyone we like, be it QWFC, Quedgeley Parish Council, the City Council, Tiger Chef, or Exiled, but it won't achieve a single thing.

That's our problem at the moment. we're just trying to bring other groups down, rather than do things that will actually help our club.

At the moment I'm trying to start up a Fans Fund where supporters can donate into Tim's playing budget, but I've asked for some help getting it off the ground from a couple of people, but haven't received it yet.

You'll hear more about this fund in the coming weeks, please donate generously. It'll be like FGR's GRASS scheme, and will hopefully send us up the League in the same way as that :notworthy:.

[Neil]

Nice work Joe. I've been thinking lately of giving up my season ticket and paying on the day, effectively paying twice. Do you think this would help if we did it en masse?

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

it is down to the council to identify some land

Wrong - there is no obligation for the council to identify land and the fact is they don't own very much that is suitable or not already being used.

there is enough of it around doing nothing

Wrong - Gloucester City boundary is a small one and there is very little available land left for development. Most of the green space is accounted for as public open space.

they just have to get of their fat but and do some work for a change

Not only is this wrong but also offensive. I work very hard and am dedicated to my job, as are most of the people I work with. This is especially difficult when there are not enough staff to deal with all the work and many like me are effectively doing two people's job (demands from the public, billions of government initiatives etc)

The council worked very hard to bring forward this option and had it paid off then you might have been praising their efforts and support. The fact it has failed is down to QWFC, not the council.

I would strongly advise people not to attack the council on this, they will be key to our future so do not bite the hand that will feed us.

[Woody]

I know we're not Quedgeley's biggest fans at the mo but this wasn't anything to do with anyone on here was it? :D:D:D

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231754&home=yes&more_nodeId1=231776&contentPK=18980534

And before anyone starts no i don't think it is funny, it just tied in with the debate on here at present!

[Neil]

small fire for the small minded ;)

[weston branch]

I know we're not Quedgeley's biggest fans at the mo but this wasn't anything to do with anyone on here was it? :D:D:D

http://www.thisisgloucestershire.co.uk/displayNode.jsp?nodeId=231771&command=displayContent&sourceNode=231754&home=yes&more_nodeId1=231776&contentPK=18980534

And before anyone starts no i don't think it is funny, it just tied in with the debate on here at present!


It was probably one of the QPC dozing off whilst trying to light their pipe.

In all seriousness though - hope no one was hurt

[Noah]

Please don't forget the 500 Club which has been the bedrock of the Trust for ever and a day. The sixty five or so souls who pay a tenner (some more) a month make it possible for the Trust to support the club consistently, summer and winter.


Currently we don't pay for ground maintenance or for meeting Meadow Park emergencies as we formerly did, and therefore we can focus much more on how to help with keeping the playing budget up. The more that join up to the 500 Club the more it will offset the decline in gates, which seems to be pretty general across the league.


It does not matter whether we find the extra cash through a scheme of Joe's or of Clifty's or through the Trust, of course. If Neil and/or others can release a bit of extra cash then they can choose to whom they give it.


I think some people in the Trust have worked really hard lately. We had the Italian job at Topoly's, the Race Night, and there is a Skittles Evening coming up soon. Gordon has organised the Christmas Raffle as well. Besides all this there is the Santa Fun Run within a month. If people want to find a way to contribute, they are spoiled for choice and there has never been a better moment to.


As the Isle of Man motto says, "Quocunque Jeceris Stabit", which roughly translated means "You're Not Going to Put Us Down Mateys". My goodness it's been difficult just lately, but together we'll pull through it. We will. It's not just rhetoric.


Off to the Trust Board monthly meeting right now !

[RegCubit]

There is a field by the awful athletics track which from memory (its been a while is I used it) would easily be big enough to house a stadium. To be honest they may as well just get rid of the athletics track and build one somewhere else because it can only be used for training.

Yes, or have joint changing facilities and clubhouse, dig up the existing track, and lay a new one. They can't afford to do everything themselves; so the new football stadium which would be close by the new athletics track, would provide the changing and bar facilities. They could fundraise with grants from the Sports Council, whilst the Football Foundation grant would be used for the stadium.

The point I am trying to make clear, is that with two separate organisations, two different sports; the whole thing becomes a much more attractive offer. It isn't just a football club looking for a bit of land to have a new stadium. The whole thing would appeal to a bigger part of the community; that would possibly appeal to possible sponsors, grant givers. But yes, the stadium must NOT contain the track. The FF grants if one could be got, is given on the basis that the stadium is used 80% of the time for football, that surely would prevent the track going inside. The current facility is used by Crypt School as well as the athletics club, so that would increase the amount of hours it is used..

Look at Plock Court, there you have football pitches, cricket? pitches; an astroturf which is well used for hockey matches and a tennis centre; but none interfere with each other.

I'm not sure how much of the land around there is owned by the Council, but there is ample room for both sports to live there independantly but with joint facilties.

[Clifty]

At the moment I'm trying to start up a Fans Fund where supporters can donate into Tim's playing budget, but I've asked for some help getting it off the ground from a couple of people, but haven't received it yet.


Sorry mate i have just beened snowed under with work since i started my new job! will try and amail those things at the weekend!

[city supporter]

The only use I would put the football pitches to in the winter would be rowing, or any other type of water sport !

[Neil]

I like the possibility of using the top end of the BlackBridge field with access down the ash path from Stroud Road. As far as I know it's not used by anyone else at present, it's about 200metres from the nearest house, and then that those face the other way (if that matters).

Does anyone have any opinions on it?

[Exiled]

The only use I would put the football pitches to in the winter would be rowing, or any other type of water sport !


.
I have heard that it is to be infilled so that it will not flood in future.

It is to be for multi sports use!

Perhaps anyone who resides in the Council offices might find out for sure?

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

No one resides here Exiled, we all go home at night (usually shattered after a hard day's work).

I would be very surprised if Plock Court or even parts of it were to be infilled would cost a fortune to do so and would simply move the flood waters on elsewhere.

[Neil]

would simply move the flood waters on elsewhere.
To Quedgeley?! :D

[Exiled]

No one resides here Exiled, we all go home at night (usually shattered after a hard day's work).

I would be very surprised if Plock Court or even parts of it were to be infilled would cost a fortune to do so and would simply move the flood waters on elsewhere.

That's what was mentioned when the other place was mentioned.

The "SUN" always shines on Quedgeley,even when it rains.

Other places may flood, not here!

Ps, Why are you not slaving over an unsolvable problem?

[city supporter]

.
I have heard that it is to be infilled so that it will not flood in future.

It is to be for multi sports use!

Perhaps anyone who resides in the Council offices might find out for sure?

Is this the same 'heard' that GCAFC would be building a 500 seater stadium at the now defunct Waterwells Plan ?:rolleyes::rolleyes:

[city supporter]

To Quedgeley?! :D

I'll get my PRAYER mat out for that one Neil....love it !:notworthy::notworthy:

[Graham]

There must be a artist impression/plans of a stadium availible to know that we are looking at a 500 seater stadium,, best of luck to the men in suits if this is true!

[city supporter]

As far as I am aware, none of this has ever been mentioned in the equasion.
It doesn't matter anyway, the whole subject is DEAD AND BURIED.

We must look elsewhere, but will always remember our 'FRIENDS' at Quedgeley and just how helpful they have been. If, in the future THEIR begging bowl appears, we will know what to do with it !

[Clifty]

In fairness i believe from talking to Jason a while ago that the league requirement is that at Southern Premier Level you MUST have 500 seats in the capacity.

[Exiled]

I'll get my PRAYER mat out for that one Neil....love it !:notworthy::notworthy:

When I moved to Shanghri-La 26 years ago we were part of Stroud DC, they did not much care for us,as were were on the periphery of their area,except when it was time to pay the rate bill,this was pre Poll Tax days.
Then about 19 years ago,out from the BIG CITY, came the City Slickers, in their sharp suits, fast cars and wimmin,with PROMISES lots of PROMISES that if we left Stroud and came and joined with them we too could have sharp suits,fast cars and wimmin! AS well as, the Earth, the Moon AND the Stars.
They promised that they would only allow to be built, some cottages with thatch roofs,with smoke curling from the chimneypots, no vast estates no wide roads, just country roads,with wild flowers and lots of Wide Open Spaces for our children to play football on, and space to take our doggies walkies.
Like fools we believed their sweet talking ways, and fell for it, hook line and sinker!
We now have vast estates with pill box houses, wide roads with traffic calming measures that give everyone the hump and almost no Public Open Spaces.
The only thing we actually got was Wheelie bins, Black ones and now lovely shiny Green one to put the leaves in if we could find any, now that they have cut down almost all the trees.
Stroud DC still have to use black bags, how primative.
DO YOU think if we voted to leave Gloucester and rejoin Stroud, we could keep our Wheelie bins?

[yates jr]

What are you on about ?:confused:

[Neil]

The Quedgeley Open Space that you need to catch a bus to get to from Quedgeley ;)

[DCM]

Ladies and Gents

It seems to me the debate on here has run its course.

QWFC have decided, as it their right, to say no to the arrangement. I dont know enough about the background to form a view but the decision is now made.

Its a bit like when a Ref gives a penalty and the other side score. Argue all you want but the decison has been made and the goal is scored. We would expect our players to forget the incident, get on with the game, and try to overcome the problem. We must do the same


There is nothing more to say on the matter. Lets put this particular debate behind us and move on.

[city supporter]

If I am the Lady you are referring to DCM, think I may have already said the subject is DEAD AND BURIED.

[SHANDY LOVE MACHINE]

and the lady's not for turning!

[city supporter]

and the lady's not for turning!

It's uncanny how you know my profile Shandy !:D

[Exiled]

What are you on about ?:confused:

.
If you are not sure, I will explain it to you the next time you meet me, if you want!
It's actually what is called mickey taking or taking the p--- or a wind up, for those who have lost their sence of proportion!

Like the post following yours.

[weston branch]

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It's actually what is called mickey taking or taking the p--- or a wind up, for those who have lost their sence of proportion!



Personally I thought it was plain old talking B*!!*£&s

[martin]

When I moved to Shanghri-La 26 years ago we were part of Stroud DC, they did not much care for us,as were were on the periphery of their area,except when it was time to pay the rate bill,this was pre Poll Tax days.
Then about 19 years ago,out from the BIG CITY, came the City Slickers, in their sharp suits, fast cars and wimmin,with PROMISES lots of PROMISES that if we left Stroud and came and joined with them we too could have sharp suits,fast cars and wimmin! Spaces for our children to play football on, and space to take our doggies walkies.
Like fools we believed their sweet talking ways, and fell for it, hook line and sinker!
We now have vast estates with pill box houses, wide roads with traffic calming measures that give everyone the hump and almost no Public Open Spaces.
The only thing we actually got was Wheelie bins, Black ones and now lovely shiny Green one to put the leaves in if we could find any, now that they have cut down almost all the trees.
Stroud DC still have to use black bags, how primative.
DO YOU think if we voted to leave Gloucester and rejoin Stroud, we could keep our Wheelie bins?

Right to reply
I haven't entered into the waterwells debacle on here so I'd just like to make a couple of observations before the debate is closed.
We canny people the other side of the brook were not fooled by the big city slickers and still reside in rural bliss unlike you in your inner city slums.
we can drive our cars around the village with no worries of a speed hump ripping the exhaust off. :D
All the football pitches used by the local youngsters ( although I do believe some chavs from over the border have managed to infiltrate several teams) are within easy walking distance of the whole area and ... not a bus ride away.:D
Although we dont have the luxury of wheelie bins our wonderful refuse disposal operatives take ALL our rubbish put out in black bags unlike those whos bins lid is slightly ajar so the rubbish is left to rot til the offending items are removed.:D
And finally, and best of all we only have to take a 15 minute walk over to waterwells where,except for a few kids on a saturday morning and the odd game of footie on sat afternoons and sunday mornings ,there is huge field where our dogs can dump to their hearts content.:thumbsup:
Perhaps the nice Stroud council could find some land at Hunts Grove and change our name to Stroud FC as we're not that much farther from Stroud than the last team that tried it!:rolleyes::D

[bobcarolgees]

This thread is getting more bizarre by the minute....

[Sam b]

This thread is getting more bizarre by the minute....

Completely agree!:confused:

Since when was Quedgely closer to Stroud than Nailsworth??

[mrtynds]

lets go back to the blackbridge idea......or winget

[Exiled]

Let's all say,
The End!

[Spraggy]

THAT'S a good ideal, no more threads on this one

[Spraggy]

and before you do it Shandy, not even another thread to say that this is THE last one

[Clifty]

Au revoir... for now!

[tigerchef]

untill the next battle

[MaxiJazz]

When I moved to Shanghri-La 26 years ago we were part of Stroud DC That would be in the days when the developers described Quedgeley as,"The gate to The Cotswolds" and as "Quaint waterside properties".. Jaisus Patrick the rubbish we get fed..